Getting smarter and smarter every day

Despite the evidence of the senses, there is a claim that intelligence is increasing. What? Well IQ scores are supposed to be increasing. A thought-provoking blog on Comment-is-Free discusses this idea and refers to a recent book by Flynn who identified what is called the Flynn effect.

There is much discussion on Wikipedia and elsewhere about possible reasons for the effect, some of them very plausible – such as Flynn’s own argument that rises have taken place only in the area of hypothetical thinking and reflect technological development. This is very interesting (the effect of cultural change on cognitive skills.)

I just doubt if IQ scores can really provide evidence that people are getting smarter,

IQ? The whole concept has a historically-based whiff of spuriousness (unjustified claims of cultural-neutrality, invention of the evidence, use to justify racist and sexist ideas, basis for divisive forms of educational selection, etc.) This spuriousness can’t be dispelled by adding in even more dubious extra “intelligences” to console those who score badly on the main tests.

All the same, used by scientists, with regards to the fact that the scores follow a mean distribution curve, they can tell us things about how able people are at showing specific skills. The main skill required is knowing how to pass them. There is nothing wrong with a test that works like this. The waters just get muddied by us all assuming that they reflect anything else than performance on a narrow set of indicator questions, when these are presented in a particular way.

Like crosswords. Cryptic crosswords defeated me, as a child, until someone explained that you just need to get used to the ways of thinking needed to do them. With knowledge of a few simple rules and a certain level of aptitude for making verbal associations, they become easy. Did I get cleverer in the short time between having no idea how to do crosswords and actually getting great pleasure from the works of Aruacaria? Far from it.

IQ tests are devised by humans. Are the people who sets them all geniuses? They must have superhuman IQs. They know ALL the answers. Who are these gods amongst us? They even possess the keys to knowing what intelligence is. Or, at least, if we think IQ really measures “intelligence”, we must take it that these really are the cleverest people on the planet.

They are academics. No surprises that IQ tests seem to work best as predictors of how someone will perform in a formal academic setting, then. As I said earlier, this would be fine, if we just stopped there and didn’t assume the tests can tell us about “intelligence” itself.

Pop science has helped to spread the idea that IQ tests measure intelligence. Helen Joyce, who wrote the CIF post, said:

The Flynn effect throws up some startling paradoxes. If, as seems to be the case, the average person from 1900 would score around 70 on a modern-day IQ test – which would put them on track for a diagnosis of mental retardation….

Wait a minute. IQ scores get standardised round 100. The distribution of scores follows a bell-shaped curve. The average score in 1900 would be, wait for it,…. 100.

Were IQ tests even invented in 1900? Not according to Wikipedia.

The term “IQ,” a translation of the German Intelligenz-Quotient, was coined by the German psychologist William Stern in 1912 as a proposed method of scoring early modern children’s intelligence tests such as those developed by Alfred Binet and Theodore Simon in the early 20th Century.

The first Binet test was produced in 1905. Hmm. In 1900, no one had seen an IQ test because there wasn’t one.

Is this pop-science idea the outcome of some deranged thought experiment, in which we have to imagine both the IQ performance of dead people and a variation in the whole way of working the scores out?

The attempt to look at changes in IQ scores over time can have some comical results.

Neisser estimates that if you extrapolate beyond the data, which shows a 21 point gain between 1952 and 1982, an even larger gain of 35 IQ points can be argued, however Arthur Jensen warns that extrapolating beyond the data leads to results such as an IQ of -1000 for Aristotle (even assuming he would have scored 200 in his day

There are ways to compare scores over time, if you use actual tests and record the results. These should all show a mean of 100 though, so it’s only changes in the shape of distribution curve that would have any explanatory value and these changes are likely to be limited.

Getting people of different ages to do the same tests comes up against the possible effects of changes in the brain over time. In any case, the academic basis of the test questions would depress the scores of older people who were educated in different topics and were not practised in academic thinking.

Getting younger people to do both old and new tests then comparing the scores would tell us more about the part that general social levels of knowledge play in the tests than it would about the intelligence of the test subjects. In any case, surely the scores on the old tests would have to be normalised to 100, so we’d still only be able to spot changes in the bell-shape…….?

1930s research done by Luria, a Soviet-era psychologist, was quoted by Flynn. Central Asian peasants’ answers to “IQ” type questions designed to identify their thinking processes supposedly showed Luria that they thought practically rather than hypothetically. Read the extract on CIF and the image of a peasant (at the time when Stalin was hammering the agrarian sector) stonewalling a potential government spy just leaps out at you. White bear/black bear? 🙂

It certainly does show a much higher level of practical intelligence than Luria seems aware. Practical political intelligence. Plus a fair amount of hidden hypothetical reasoning. Rather than some mentally bound peasant incapacity to think beyond the present, as Luria seemed to imply.

Almost ironically, it seems that Luria learned some lessons about the value of adopting “practical” thought processes pretty quickly. He soon had to make some drastic career changes to avoid Stalin’s attentions. Post-war, he tried to get back into neuro-surgery but

“His plans were interrupted for several years when he was removed from the Institute of Neurosurgery during a period of particularly virulent anti-semitic repression.”

My point here is that Luria was obviously hugely more academically skilled than the central Asian peasant. so he assumed that his thought processes were somehow more advanced. He didn’t credit the peasants with the same capacities for critical thinking as himself because his own social/cultural biases limited his interpretations of the evidence. We all do it, including the interpretors of IQ tests.


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Posted in Philosophy, Rants, Science

Too long for a comment

This post is really a reply to an unfeasibly large comment (ref is to Viz, for UK readers) but it grew unfeasibly large itself, so I thought it would have to grow up to be a post

“Rafael” is sadly neither a Mutant Ninja Turtle nor a Renaissance painter. Even more sadly, it’s not one of the supreme beings from the obscure CU_T pantheon to which Black Sun Journal often refers.

He/she is some sort of Christian who posts incomprehensible and unreadable comments. This blog got two from him/her today. I can only assume the words get copied and pasted from some central store, which is by definition a waste of hard disk space. The comments don’t relate to the posts, at least as far as I can see.

(To be honest, I just assume that s/he is mentally ill, but I decided to try to treat the comment seriously, because I feel guilty about dismissing someone just because they aren’t clever or rational. OK, I couldn’t stop some sarcasm seeping in but nobody’s perfect right.)

Rafael

I am impressed that your comments achieve the length of shortish novellas.

All the same, I have to say that ” the monkeys with typewriters” idea clearly has some way to go before it produces the complete works of Shakespeare. Props for trying, anyway..

I have decided to treat you as a human being, on a temporary basis, and actually address some of your points. I am even going to get sickeningly preachy. This annoys the hell out of most people but I guess religious folk must be used to it.

1. THE PURPOSE OF MAN’S EXISTENCE
Who we are? Why are we in this world? Where are we going?

This is a silly question. Your answer is even sillier.

2. GOD’S PLAN God has a plan.

Why do I think this? Can I count the ways? Here’s a few, anyway…

I think it is tragic that people can’t find meaning in life without having to take it secondhand from an old book and/or from an imaginary friend, in whose galactic program they are a minor sub-routine.

It is depressing to see how little value our species attaches to the astonishing facts of the existence of the cosmos or biology or consciousness.

It is baffling that religious people have such a hopelessly degraded view of their own supreme being that they see it as a firm but (un) fair big Sky Daddy.

Even more baffling is that the big Middle-Eastern SkyDaddy – who can supposedly do ANYTHING in the miracles line, somehow chose to communicate with humans only through words that got written down centuries ago. This seems particularly mean to his human subjects, given that literacy wasn’t exactly universal then.

This Supreme Being is even so bizarrely twisted as to set up a whole planet just to play silly games with its human inhabitants. Like creating imaginary fossil records because he knew that, in a few thousand years, his human serfs would come up with scientific theories about them. This, apparently because he was setting humans up for a test to check that they would believe the magic book over the evidence of their rationality… And so on. (I am not saying that you believe this, given that I haven’t read more than the start of your comment, but it’s a common fundy YEC “explanation” for the inconvenient evidence.)

If you can’t see how amazing the real world is and need to follow someone’s words, I am going to quote the Lebanese poet Kahlil Gibran:

“Your children are not your children.
They are the sons and daughters of Life’s longing for itself. ” [My emphasis]

I know this is anthropomorphising “life” but it’s poetry, not a holy book, so YOU DON’T HAVE TO BELIEVE IT. It’s a metaphor. It just expresses a feeling that life is its own purpose. (This feeling is generally enough soul-food for those of us who don’t fear/worship BigSkyDaddy.)

If there was a creator entity, it would be so infinitely beyond human comprehension that we could never even begin to imagine it, let alone follow the workings of its “mind” and assume it has some “purpose.” Purpose is a human construct. What “purpose” could an infinite, ubiquitous, all-knowing Being have? It’s everywhere, remember. There’s nothing it can’t do. There being only one of these, it wouldn’t even have its own kind to relate to. Why would it even need any means of communication then? Htf could it even be conscious in any meaningful sense. Our human consciousness develops through interaction. We’d clearly have the advantage over it, there.

If there was a big entity that could control the movement of galaxies and order the behaviour of electrons inside the atom, wtf would we imagine for one minute it was also mad enough to create conscious beings just to get them to say how great it was?

We are nowhere near even knowing what is in the Universe or within ourselves e.g. what is a dimension? what is space? what is matter? what is energy? what is consciousness? where is our consciousness? The only way we can approach these ideas is through the amazing human capacity to think.

Why would we throw away ways of thinking (rationality, science, skepticism) that actually work to develop our understanding the workings of the universe, (i.e. purpose, as conceived in human terms – the only purpose we can conceive of) to go for big skydaddy myths? Especially, when the use of our minds can bring us some of the greatest pleasures in life?

And why would anyone base their morality and belief system on someone’s interpretation of a few old books? I love fairy stories and myths, myself. However, I find it usually helps to be able to distinguish between stories and reality. The average pre-school child can do this quite easily.

If your god existed, it would be truly malevolent, so it’s lucky that it doesn’t, really. It’s still a pity that most of the planet believes in some variant of the evil sky daddy and bases the actions that would be hardest to justify in human moral terms on it.

Like a proper doorstep god-botherer, I am going to suggest that your life is empty and that you can only fill the spiritual void by appreciating your real existence. 🙂

If you would like me to leave you with one of these handy leaflets….


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Posted in Philosophy, Rants, Society

Stupid for Jesus

Wow. Mention “Darwin” and the fundie-fools really do come crawling out of the woodwork. Recently ABC news had a fairly bland article about Evolution and it has drawn some mind-boggling responses. It seems that evolution is one of those topics which people feel eminently qualified to talk about, despite having no knowledge or understanding. People (sadly atheists as well as theists) seem to think that science is not a process of rational inquiry but is simply a collection of rag tag ideas where everyone’s opinion has equal validity. Wrong doesn’t do it justice.

First up is “Jerry Nendel” who gets us of to fantastic start with this:

One simple question. How did mammals manage to survive while they waited for the complex design of procreation to “evolve”. Global warming people are saying that mammal species are now dying out because they can’t evolve fast enough to cope with the 1/4 degree increase in temperature, but somehow they managed the other.

No really. This is actually exactly what the comment reads. Obviously Jerry doesn’t know the first thing about evolution – thinks mammals are older than reproduction and has some serious dislike for climate change. A proper two in one nutter here. Until recently, I had considered emigrating to the US, but now I fear for the education my children will receive.

Jerry’s brainwave is followed by someone called “Realist” who claims to fear for the US and says it is a laughing stock amongst developed nations. Ironically, this generates two responses which are so funny I have to put them in full:

@Jerry Nendel:

We are the advanced nation.

Posted by: Jerry Nendel is a moron | Jan 3, 2008 4:28:35 PM

That comment was meant for Realist.

Posted by: Sorry Jerry Nendel | Jan 3, 2008 4:30:03 PM

Ouch. It would have been nowhere near as funny if the idiot hadn’t made such a hash of the attempted claim to America’s advancement.

“Scott” chimes in with the tiresome:

We came from monkeys. LOL Whoever believes that must have the intellect of monkeys, so maybe they just evolved.

Just another idiot parroting out something his pastor said which made him chuckle. Shame on him. He is not alone though:

“Cliff”

If we evolved from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys?? If I am wrong for believing in God, oh well. If the atheists are wrong, well, Hell.

Blimey two false statements in one. First off only a total retard would think evolution suggests humans evolved from monkeys. Secondly, Pascals Wager is wrong. If Cliff is wrong, Allah will punish him for eternity, Thor will not allow him to feast at the great table (etc). Sadly this isn’t even original idiocy.

“Benjamin” at least has some form of rationale to present (even if it is wrong, which it is):

Sad that people still believe in evolution. It’s a scientific community that is desperate to prove that it is still in control and that absolutely everything can be proved by experimentation. As a student of science and a student of the Bible, I see absolutely no reason why true science and religion don’t harmonize. It’s those so-called ‘creationists’ who advocate the Earth was created in six, literal, 24 hour days that do much discredit to people who believe in creation. Yes, evolution in general is indisputable, since germs and viruses evolve and so forth. But human evolution? Impossible. Impossible to the nth degree.

You know what? I agree creationists do much to discredit those who believe in creation. However, believing in creation is the main flaw. For a “student of science” to claim evolution is “impossible to the nth degree” there must be some alternative meaning to the words I am not privy to.

Cliff F brings in the Christian persecution complex:

It is always interesting to me, that I am considered a kook, for believing in God. But, the evolutionists are considered “sane”, for their beliefs. Do you really believe that the earth and everything on it (including man), just developed as a coincidence? That it all happened just by chance? What are the odds of that happening? ASTRONOMICAL!!

Here we see a prime example of someone not knowing what they are talking about, but still talking about it. Cliff bandies words such as “beliefs” “coincidence” “chance” and “odds” without having any real idea what they mean or how they relate to the scientific theory of evolution.

In a universe, astronomical odds are pretty low…

Sadly the odds of this thread on ABC getting stranger (and further from any real definition of “correct) are already low. Jim Strawn chimes in with this bit of madness: [emphasis mine]

The matter is far from settled. Evidence for a created, young earth is also mounting rapidly from Astronomy, Geology, Genetics, Physics and other fields. Both sides of the debate have the same facts to deal with and are both left with difficult questions. This booklet speaks of Evolution as if there were no difficulties, comparing Evolution to something so observable as Gravity. It also speaks of Evolution and Natural Selection as synonymous, but can Evolution explain such difficulties as the sheer number of unlikely beneficial mutations required to form a single anatomical addition? Ultimately, either side is left with evidence, observations, and preconceived ideas. Each side must answer this plain question: “Were you there?” Frankly, I’m disappointed with the NAS.

WTF! What evidence from Astronomy, Geology, Genetics, Physics or any other field is “rapidly mounting” to support YEC? Lying for Jesus is still lying. The “both sides” fallacy is getting annoying but the real weirdness is how this loon wants the final decision made. What the **** does he mean “were you there?” Is he saying the (ahem) testimony of the bible counts as evidence the world was created by God 6000 years ago? Sadly, we have no written testimony from Adam and Even and not even YECs have a young enough Earth to have been around at its creation, so I think we have to go with the scientific evidence. It overwhelms the supposed testimony of the bible. If this was a court of law, the forensic evidence would outweigh the, frankly dodgy, witness testimony and the bible would be sentenced to hard time.

The entire medical profession is shamed by this nutter: [emphasis mine]

The next BIG Bang event to happen will be Christ returning. As a Doctor anyone who can look at the human body with its DNA and the complex being that we are and think this happened by chance and not design skipped thier Bio classes. We find a fossil of a fish with legs on this same website they are showing you pictures of conjoined twins skeletons so in 100 years will people think we all had two heads. One fossil makles a nice museum peice 1000 makes an argument.

Yeah, I would really like to visit this crank next time I have a viral or bacterial infection… Especially as the retard can’t write…

More stupidity:

There are enough holes in evolution to drive a mack truck through it. But this isn’t a battle between evolution and Intelligent Design or evolution and Creationism anyway. This is really a battle of worldviews – the atheistic/materialistic/naturalist worldview and the theistic worldview.

Hmmm. Wrong. Next.

Evolution??? Evolution is a THEORY.
You are welcome to your theory. So are those that believe, or in other words, have a theory that God created man.

Common sense rules out evolution.
Natural selection would dictate that only a few select species would survive.
Why don’t pigs fly or talk. Why just monkies able to “evolve”.
Why science has observed is ADAPTATION.
There is zero evidence, or observation oof one species becoming a more acompletely new advanced species.

Argh. What a blinding indictment of the education system. I can only pray to Toutatis that this retard is home schooled and only has access to a computer as part of his rehabilitation classes. This makes my head spin with its retarded nature. “Common sense” is a great buzzword for the loonies who seem to ignore the fact that “common sense” is a poor thing for looking at anything outside the scale of spending an hour in your garage. What freak taught this retard only monkeys could evolve? The adaptation sentence is too incoherent for me to work out what he even wants to say. Finally he finishes with an appeal to personal ignorance. Aren’t these people great.

What about this for weirdly insane: [emphasis mine]

As a dog owner, I can tell you that my dog is very intelligent but did not evolve from any cells of a creature that man did. Evolution is fine but only after stating that all was created and allowed to evolve by the Creator and not chance. Man’s mind should show people how man is nowhere near related to animals.

Mind boggling. It is really making my head spin that this person has an animal in his house and is still blind to the obvious. Wow. I worry for the world.

I will stop now, but may return to this later when I get over the headache these early posts have made (plus I want to try and respond on the ABC site as well. Before I go, this final quote, from jmac0011:

Evolution=more $$$$$ for the Liberals.

Gosh. What more needs to be said…

(hat tip: FSTDT)


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Posted in Science

Flickr Weirdness

Well it seems like Flickr is out to get me this year. Have a look at this two pictures of the same group pool and you can see the picture I uploaded is strangely invisible to people who are not me. I have checked every possible setting, the pictures display fine elsewhere (like here) but when I add to them to a pool they vanish. (look between KlausTheBest and johopo(John))

Picture 1 - the pool viewed in a browser not logged into Flickr as me.Picture 2 - the pool viewed in a browser which IS logged in as me.

Well, I certainly dont get it. Any one who has any idea of how to solve this please let me know.


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Posted in Technology

More Religous Rabble Rousing

In light of recent campaigns by Christian or Islamic school children to be allowed to breach their chosen school’s uniform code so that they can wear their own weird religious symbols (isn’t it verging on idolatry for the monotheists?), it seems Sikhism has felt left out. Not any more.

Today, the BBC reports:

A legal challenge has been filed in the High Court on behalf of a 14-year-old girl excluded from a Cynon Valley school for wearing a Sikh bangle.

Oh please. Is this really what the education budget should be spent on? No wonder schools up and down the country are struggling to fund real lessons (allowing creationism to sneak in), when all their budgets are spent defending against petulant teenagers wanting to rebel against the school dress codes. Gone are the days of wearing your blazer round your waist, or a funny knot in your tie, now we have court cases over esoteric religious jewellery. Wonderful.

Sadly, the much maligned liberty gets in on the act here and (IMHO) damages is standing in future causes:

Campaign group, Liberty, has made the challenge, saying the school had breached race relations laws.

Well done Liberty, you just couldn’t pass up this chance to get in the news, could you? This is not a race relations issue, it is not even a religious freedom issue. The school is not discriminating against this school girl because of her religion, race, gender, shoe size or anything else. It is attempting to uphold a uniform standard. If the school had demanded she take off the bracelet and wear a crucifix instead, then yes, I would be up in arms about it. The BBC continues:

The school bans all jewellery and has said their policy ensures equality.

After filling the challenge, Liberty said the school has also breached human rights laws.

It really is enough to make you want to cry.

I have to wear a tie to work, will Liberty defend my human right to not do so? I doubt it. Will they pay my wages when my employer sacks me? I doubt it. This girl’s parents will have been aware of the school dress codes before she started there. Why did they send her to a school which prohibits jewellery if wearing a bloody bracelet is so important?

Sadly, the BBC article continues to show humanity at its worst. It provides paragraphs of ammunition for right-wingers and neo-Nazis to continue to argue that “these people” (i.e. intelligent people who dont follow their particular brand of hatred) shouldn’t be allowed in the country. It panders to the right-wingers who bemoan how “PC” we have become and that this is a bad thing. It weakens every other “human rights” argument because this is nothing to do with fundamental human rights. I feel sorry for the Welsh Assembly (unusual for me…) being dragged into this, but at least they say it is down to the school not them.

This is not political correctness, it is stupidity. Win or lose, every one pays the price for this.


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Posted in Philosophy, Society

Climate Change – Atheists Can Be Stupid Too… [long]

Well, on this blog we have often tried to point out that a conglomeration of atheists is no likely to be more intelligent, more sane, more rational than any other grouping (*), but recently we have had a fair bit of evidence that being an “atheist” says very little about a person. Atheism is an open club, there are no vows you have to take (**), there is no entry test and it is pretty much all self-certified – if you say you are an atheist, you are an atheist. There is no doctrine atheists must follow, no common political ideology and, sadly, no reasons that any particular atheist should be even remotely scientifically literate (for example Al Kafir Akbar, discussed previously). Everyone is born an atheist, some are converted to a religion then escape, others just remain atheists.

It seems we have a new entry to the ranks of literate but scientifically challenged atheist. Brendan O’Neill is the person who claims to be an “avowed atheist” and is “as atheistic as it gets.” I have no idea how Brendan sees there being a sliding scale of atheism, it has always struck me as being reasonably black and white(***).

Not content with repeating himself ad nauseam (see heather’s previous posts), writing in CommentIsFree today, Brendan has now joined in on the side of Climate Change Deniers. In a breathtaking display of scientific illiteracy (as well as some apparent linguistic illiteracy), Brendan launches an attack on anthropogenic climate change that would make the discovery institute proud. He seems convinced that his limited reading on the subject has imparted upon him a greater understanding than the majority of the worlds scientists. Like all kooks, he feels that the few newspaper articles he has read, has allowed him to have a unique insight that no amount of scientifically trained people (students and professors) have managed to spot. He is amazing, and I am sure he will be on his way to Stockholm in the very near future. Or not. Add into this weird approach to science, the fact he is attacking things no on their science but on their presentation (or more importantly his interpretation of it), and you can see he must spend a lot of time at UncommonDescent. Even his arguments seem similar to the crackpot ones they use. As soon as he uses the “less than half of scientists support global warming” we will know the truth… Continue reading


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Posted in Philosophy, Science, Society

Pipex is Still Terrible

Well, any long time readers of this blog will know I detest Pipex (my ISP – I refuse to link to them). It is terrible. It has abysmal customer service and for most of the summer I was without a connection at all. When they finally got round to fixing it what speed the ADSL used to have was truly gone.

Sadly, thanks to the terms and conditions the ISP is allowed to impose, I am obliged to remain with them for another four months at least. This is gutting when the net connection is barely faster than dial up.

I have spent the first three days of this month trying to connect to Thinkbroadband.com to see what my actual transfer speeds were. However, the connection was too slow for the speedtest to run. How bad is that? Fortunately, today things have picked up a little so here is this months graph:

Graph of transfer speeds using the UK ISP Pipex

What is really shocking about this graph, is not just the massive downwards trend it shows, but the fact that the really slow connections aren’t even on it. This graph only shows when the connection speeds were fast enough for me to get the speedtester to run! Very soon the early “fast” days will drop off the graph and it will just be flatlined crap speeds.

It is infuriating that, in this day and age, it seems impossible to get a consistently fast data connection. I am paying for a service which advertises itself as an “8mb connection” yet I barely scrape over 2mb. As soon as I can get out of this contract I am going with Virgin Media Cable broadband.

I have been with Pipex for about five years now – until very recently they were wonderful. I would have recommended them to anyone. However, in the summer they were taken over by Tiscali (who I have hated in the past) and things have plummeted like a lead weight.

Why in the name of Toutatis would Tiscali (who already had a reputation for being crap) buy a good ISP and then turn it to rubbish? What on earth is the point of that? Are these people mad? (Note: Virgin did the same with Blueyonder/Telewest…)

Anyway, before I get ranting about the stupidity of corporate takeovers, I will end here with the exhortation that you never, ever recommend Pipex (or Tiscali) to anyone you have even a passing regard for. Terrible ISP is an understatement.


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Posted in Bad Shops, Rants, Technology

As atheist as it gets?

Sunk in post-holiday torpor, I somehow missed the full flowering of the avowed atheist’s (TM) atheism in the Guardian’s Comment is Free on 30 December.

Bear in mind Brendan O’Neill is someone who introduces his own blog with this blurb:

One of this country’s sharpest social commentators’ (Daily Telegraph)

What country are they talking about? (Although, the Daily Telegraph probably wouldn’t recognise sharp social commentary even if it was poked in the eye by it.)

In the blogpost I’m talking about, O’Neill pours even more scorn on public atheists than he bestowed on the Archbishop of Canterbury.  His victims are Dawkins, Hitchens et al.

The new atheism
There is more humanity in the ‘superhuman’ delusions of the devout than there is in the realism of the hectoring atheists

Blimey, can you plagiarise yourself? Weren’t these pretty well the exact words he used in the Spiked-Online article about Rowan Williams. (Well, except for the “monkeyman” bit. Maybe the Guardian found that too offensive for the subhead? ) He must be really really proud of these phrases.

I am as atheistic as it gets. But I will not be signing up to this shrill hectoring of the religious. The new atheists have given atheism a bad name. History’s greatest atheists, or the “old atheists” as we are now forced to call them, were humanistic and progressive, critical of religion because it expressed man’s sense of higher moral purpose in a deeply flawed fashion. The new atheists are screechy and intolerant; they see religion merely as an expression of mass ignorance and delusion. Their aim seems to be, not only to bring God crashing back down to earth, but also to downgrade mankind itself.

And so on. In so doing, he brings up Darwin and Marx, apparently “old atheists” – whose words must therefore provide the all-wise authority that this “atheistic as it gets” person apparently can’t live without.

Indeed (in the second article of his that I’ve decided to savage) he yet again takes Marx’s words completely out of context, to somehow derive a meaning that is the opposite of what the man was saying. All the same, it wouldn’t matter if O’Neill hadn’t got it wrong. If historic figure X believed the moon was made of paper, their success in another field wouldn’t make it true.

This doesn’t stop O’Neill referring often to Marx, as if some acknowledged wisdom in political philosophy made everything Marx said true. And, most bizarrely, as if Marx somehow agreed with O’Neill that Dawkins et al should just shut up.

For Marx, religion had to be abolished because it made man despicable; for new atheists religion exists precisely because man is despicable, little more than a monkey.
New atheists will continue to ridicule the religious in 2008. But there is more humanity in the “superhuman” delusions of the devout – in their yearning for a sense of purpose and greatness – than there is in the monkeyman realism of the hectoring atheists.

Oh, look, there’s the “monkeyman realism” stuff again. How odd that he hates the whole idea of evolution but seems to worship Darwin.
Here’s the “superhuman delusion” quote again. Again, ffs. Look, Brendan, it just wasn’t that good. Sorry.

And, surely, Marx didn’t believe religion “made man despicable”. Blimey, I doubt that even the allegedly “hectoring” Dawkins and Hitchens would go that far. IMAO, Marx (and other classical social scientists) saw religion largely in terms of its social role of providing ideas that support social relations. (Generally 19th century intellectuals tended to look at how things work in the real world.)

If this is what “being as atheist as it gets” looks like, can we have an atheist competition to see if its possible to get more atheist, please?


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Posted in History, Philosophy, Rants, Society

Avowedly atheist? You made a vow?

There’s a post on Spiked online where the (“avowedly atheist”) editor whines about Archbishop Rowan Williams (Head of the Church of England – I think) on the apparent grounds that Williams is not rabidly irrational enough to be a proper church man. Not enough “fire and brimstone,” apparently. Pays attention to Dawkins, even.

Williams apparently had the audacity to talk about not buggering up the planet in his New Year’s address. So have a few other Christian notables. This has got Brendan O’Neill pretty annoyed, to the point where he complains about Williams’ “smug face” and ” social-worker voice”

His sermon was indistinguishable from those delivered (not just at Christmas but for life) by the heads of Greenpeace or Friends of the Earth. Williams did not speak about Christian morality; in fact, he didn’t utter the m-word at all. He said little about men’s responsibility to love one another and God, the two Commandments Jesus Christ said we should live by. Instead he talked about our role as janitors on planet Earth, who must stop plundering the ‘warehouse of natural resources’ and ensure that we clean up after ourselves.

What? You are complaining because he didn’t make unfollowable narrow-minded pronouncements about “personal morality” and had the gall to discuss issues of genuine morality? Did I misunderstand something here?

(Maybe he didn’t just repeat meaningless injunctions to love each other, possibly because these religious wallpaper-style admonitions don’t actually appear to work.)

One thing that really ignites O’Neill’s easily sparked avowedly atheist ire is:

in his Christmas sermon, the Archbishop of Canterbury quoted extensively, not from the Bible, but from Richard Dawkins, who is considered by many to be the Rottweiler of the New Atheism.

So, just let me recap here? Signs of a churchman’s taking onboard rational scientific arguments and daring to suggest that it might be immoral not to leave a working planet for future generations are BAD?

At a time of such low horizons, is it any wonder that some people still do cling on to God, and seek transcendence from mundane everyday life through a belief in divinity? There is more humanity in their ‘superhuman’ delusions than there is in the monkeyman realism of eco-Christians and New Atheists

Monkeyman realism?

He is saying that he despises a churchperson who accepts evolution and argues for a broader concept of what ethics are than you can find in a old book of fables. The implications of his words are that a bible-thumping creationist hypocrite would somehow be better.

Don’t fret Brendan. There are more than enough of these to go round. The Phelps are maybe a little too extreme even for your taste but plenty more bible-thumpers would fill the patriarchal priest role you prefer. (Tip. Wingnut daily is a good place to start looking for them.) The Islamic faith has a good few as well.

Any danger of the world’s religions becoming too ecological and rational is greatly exaggerated. So you can sleep easy in your bed and stop worrying about dangerous atheist rottweilers, Brendan.


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Posted in General, Philosophy, Rants, Society

Oh No! The End Is Near!

I accidentally deleted a comment on the previous “False Prophet” post which pointed to a weird site hosted by Bravenet. Titled “Welcome To Rapture In The Air” it has this blurb at the start: (insane font removed)

This is a Pre Trib Rapture forum and all are welcome who share their love for Our Beloved’s return as He promised.There is no debating on this forum about the rapture or denominational issues.We are here for one another in friendship, love, and prayer as we watch together for Jesus’s soon return.

“This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.” John 15:12 (NKJV)

Will You Be At The Wedding Supper

Of The Lamb Of God?

Accept Jesus Now As Your Saviour

The Invitation Has Been Sent

Come Dine With Him.

Wow. You just know it is going to be hilarious. It has hundreds of death-worshipping posts longing for the end of the universe and being somewhat self-congratulating about how all the Born-Againers will get the rewards and everyone else will suffer. Not massively Christian in its outlook but then most BAFundies aren’t.

The site is riddled with madness. Because there is so much start staring lunacy, it is hard to know which particular bit to ridicule the most so I have gone for a random post. I clicked on one of the first page topics at random and found this: (only beginning bit repeated here, it is long)

The judgment at Midnight! (THIS MONTH?)

ALL:

The news of “JUDGMENT” is NOT readily accepted by people “of” the world
and EVEN (or maybe ESPECIALLY) Christians! That may be ALL beside
the point as we enter 2008!!!

It is almost like NOW there was provided (for those watchful) a ringside seat
to “see” some things that “MAY” be about to transpire!

Going back “5” (which means “GRACE”) years….

On 2/1/03, I was in bed watching TV (after an operation the day before) and
actually “HEARD” the words on CNN:

…”The Shuttle (Columbia) has COME APART OVER PALESTINE (TX)!”

As we come to that anniversary on February 1, 2008, there are OTHER
“heavenly” (and “earthly”) witnesses going on! As 2007 became 2008, a
“wedding ring” (URL below sent to me by Carol) produced by solar flares
was seen in the heavens:
… [loads of madness]
WARNINGS TO THE US GO UNHEEDED and Bush is about to enter Israel
this month! This month is 700 days from a 7.0 quake VERY NEAR MIDNIGHT,
Israel time (see notes below). The quake was “IN” Israel’s time zone! I’ll let the
reader decide its implications (because I am only watching, as well)!!!

This is so weird it makes your head spin. It is written in that wonderfully breathless style the real “faithful” manage. The writing style, with its interesting use of grammar, is very typical for the cranks who predict every day is the end of the world. The crazy rationale for how this “quake” being near midnight means the world is going to end is priceless. I challenge anyone to read this without either getting a headache or laughing out loud at least once.

On the subject of False Prophets, the wonderful, balanced, truthful news site FauxFOX News has reported that the lying scumbag ever so honest prophet Pat Robertson is unbowed by his previous predictions from God being complete lies and making new ones: (Source)

NORFOLK, Va. — Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson predicted Wednesday that 2008 will be a year of violence worldwide and a recession in the United States, followed by a major stock-market crash by 2010.

Sharing what he believes God has told him about the year ahead is an annual tradition for Robertson.

On Wednesday’s “700 Club” broadcast, the founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network predicted that evangelism will increase and more people will seek God as the chaos develops. Robertson said, “We will see the presence of angels and we will see an intensification of miracles around the world.”

Some people really have no shame. I wonder if they really believe the voices in their head are from God? I know when Toutatis talks to me he sounds a bit like Zeus but I put that down a bad connection as the toaster doesn’t even have a speaker…


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Posted in Philosophy, Society

Data insecurity

Th British government is planning to make the distribution of hacker tools into a crime, according to a post on the Register This is an amendment to the Computer Misuse Act, included in the Police and Justice Act 2006, but unlikely to become law until May, 2008.

Hmm, hacker tools? What does that mean? On first thought, it must include anything you can do on a PC. What about Visual Basic for example? Any Unix Distro? Windows?

OK. Let’s assume that all the standard OSes and applications won’t be included. What about relatively innocuous programs like snort and Ethereal, which let you monitor what’s happening on your network? Plus all the other programs you might use to secure a system – password crackers and stress testers.

The Register points out that many “hacker” tools are used by sysadmins to secure networks.

The problem is that anything from nmap through wireshark to perl can be used for both legitimate and illicit purposes, in much the same way that a hammer can be used for putting up shelving or breaking into a car.

Apparently, the government has stepped back a bit from this mad direction by adding something about the intent to use the software, after industry concern, but the Register says that it’s still going ahead with the plan “to prosecute people who distribute a tool, such as nmap, that’s subsequently abused by hackers.”

LightBlueTouchpaper site says:

the complexity surrounds “distribution”, if a good guy runs a website and a lot of bad people download the tool from it, has the good guy committed an offence?

The point is well expressed on Spy-Blog which also draws attention to the shockingly poor global rank of the UK for privacy:

The United Kingdom, is still, to our shame and to public fear, ranked in the worst category, i.e. an “endemic surveillance society” alongside the Russian Federation, China, the USA and Malaysia etc.
The incompetent Labour government has managed to further increase the size and scope of its “surveillance state” activities, without any effective transparent checks or balances. They have not achieved any extra “security” as a result of this snooping and spying on the public, but they have further lost public confidence and trust in centralised government bureaucratic systems

These “anti-hacker” activities seem particularly poorly timed, given that the past few weeks have seen the most crucial private data of millions of UK citizens’ having been randomly distributed in the UK and even the USA.

And, oddly, not due to the ultimate cunning of nefarious hax0rs. Due solely to the incompetence of government agencies and subcontractors. Hmm.

For example- this story from spy-blogbuggers belief. MI5 emailalert sign-up shambles

Astonishingly, MI5, the Security Service, part of whose remit is supposed to be giving protection advice against electronic attacks over the internet, is sending all our personal details (forename, surname and email address) unencrypted to commercial third party e-mail marketing and tracking companies which are physically and legally in the jurisdiction of the United States of America, and is even not bothering to make use of the SSL / TLS encrypted web forms and processing scripts which are already available to them..


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Posted in Rants, Society, Technology

Flickr is soooo last year

It seems that the mighty Web 2.0 stalwart Flickr isn’t as futuristic as people may have once thought. Flickr seems to be stuck in 2007.

Flickr Stats - seem to have lots of comments but no visitors…

Now I am far from a flickr expert, so if anyone knows how it is possible to get 132 comments without anyone visiting your pictures please let me know.


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Posted in Technology

Who is Lying? Corbitt or God?

Well after the doom and gloom which makes up most of the news today, thanks to FSTDT I have found something so funny, I am going to be laughing about it until 2009.

Basically, someone by the name of “Shelby Corbitt” has been prophesing that God told them the rapture would come in 2007. This is what was on the website titled “2007 Rapture – The Official Website.”

God revealed to me two things about the timing of the rapture. God specifically told me 2007 was the year, because I was only going to have from 3 to 3 1/2 years to spread the message after my book was published. It was published in June 2004. Then He showed me that me and my family were swimming in the swimming pool the day before the rapture. The fact that we were swimming immediately made me think summer. I was not sure if God was showing me summerlike weather or if He was trying to tell me literal summertime. Since literal summer ended on September 21st, God obviously meant it would be summerlike weather here where I live in Florida. It is summerlike weather here the majority of the year. This year 2007 we seem to be breaking all kinds of heatwave records. Our unheated pool is normally too cool to swim in past October. But this year we have stayed in the 80’s until now, which is mid December. Our summerlike weather just keeps hanging on. I can not control or manipulate the weather. It is in God’s hands. Once our pool water gets around 72 or 73 degrees we close it down for the year. Even if it stays warm enough to swim all year, 2007 is still the year of the rapture. The prophetic dream God gave me was about the rapture and how the rapture related to my own personal life and the town I live in. The prophetic message that I believe God wants me to share is that the rapture of the church (God’s children) will happen this year 2007!!

Now, I don’t know about you but I am fairly sure that we are in 2008 over the entire globe now – certainly in Florida! Poor old Shelby is still here and there are no signs the Rapture has happened – unles Odin decided that no one was actually worthy (and, given the retards on RaptureReady.com, who can blame him).

The part I like most reads “God specifically told me 2007 was the year”, because when you compare that to the more recent attempt at an apology: (mad-assed colours removed)

I STILL BELIEVE I RECEIVED A PROPHETIC DREAM FROM GOD ABOUT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH IN 1986. I WAS SUPPOSE TO WRITE THAT DREAM DOWN IN A BOOK AND NOT SHARE IT OR RELEASE IT UNTIL GOD TOLD ME TO. I KEPT THAT DREAM TO MYSELF UNTIL JANUARY 2003. I HAD BEEN TERRIBLY ILL. I DID NOT THINK I WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO RECOVER AND I ACTUALLY THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE. THERE WERE MANY PEOPLE PRAYING FOR ME. A WOMAN FROM CHURCH, WHO I DID NOT KNOW VERY WELL AT THE TIME, CALLED ME ONE DAY AND TOLD ME SHE HAD A WORD FROM GOD FOR ME. SHE SAID GOD TOLD HER TO TELL ME I WAS GOING TO LIVE AND NOW WAS THE TIME TO TELL THE WORD HE HAD GIVEN ME. THE NEXT MORNING WHEN I WOKE UP I WAS 1000 TIMES STRONGER THAN I WAS THE DAY BEFORE. I KNEW GOD HAD TOUCHED ME AND I INDEED WAS GOING TO LIVE.

Well this is interesting. There are only a few things that can have happened here, so I will try to list them:

  1. God spoke to Shelby but lied through his holy teeth.
  2. God spoke to Shelby but was wrong.
  3. God didn’t speak to Shelby who was just delusional. He never healed Shelby and any resultant health was down to more natural causes.
  4. God didn’t speak to Shelby who just decided to milk thousands of idiots for some money to save having to go to work.

I don’t know what is funnier, the idea that there were indeed masses of fools people who bought the book and donated money to Shelby awaiting the END OF TIMES or the fact Shelby managed to fleece so many people, when if the rapture was coming, no one would have needed the money anyway.

Anyway, 2007Rapture is like the gift that just keeps giving. I can’t do justice to the nonsense and woo it tries to spread, so you really need to visit it yourself. Be prepared to laugh for months. Worth a special mention is the Messages from God blog part of the site, where Shelby gives you Gods Word of the Day. Tears of laughter. Thank you Shelby, may Toutatis have mercy upon your lying, conning, scamming soul.


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Posted in Society

New Year, Old Problems

It is a new year and as always, I have been inundated with well meaning text messages and emails saying things like “have a great new year” and a fair few saying the optimistic “I hope 2008 is an even better year for you” – not that anything went wrong in 2007 (at least for me). In the same manner, the TV has all manner of pundits going on about how great the new year will be and generally around this time of year there is a lot of optimism. We seem to assume that as the world gets older, we all get wiser and, collectively, things will get better.

Personally, I think it is crap.

As Heather alluded to in a previous post, we (*) are not getting wiser. If anything, our culture is undoing every “good” that our forefathers fought and died for. Problems which previous generations thought were “solved” have returned and it seems that the entire world is racing back to the mythical version of the dark ages(**) as fast as it can. In fact, it seems we are trying to invent a society which would be frowned upon by feudal serfs as too harsh and cruel.

It is with this at the back of my mind, that I was far from shocked to read today’s Guardian newspaper:

Smokers could be required to quit in exchange for NHS rights

People could be expected to lose weight and give up smoking in exchange for rights to healthcare to be enshrined in a new NHS constitution, Gordon Brown will signal today.

In case you get the wrong idea, I am rabidly anti-smoking and, if I had the power, it would be banned in all public spaces (open and enclosed) and smokers would only be allowed to smoke in little cages with no air escapes.

However, this strikes me as being insane. It is plain wrong and undermines the basis of the National Health Service.

In the UK we have an admittedly flawed national health service but even at its worst it is better than pretty much every other one in the world. The NHS provides care for all, not worrying about the sick being rich or poor, not worrying who is fortunate enough to have a job which comes with health care or is fortunate enough to be able to afford to treat their illness. Sickness, disease and infirmity affect everyone and (with a few exceptions) doesn’t care about the victims social status or income.

It seems our society is trying to lose this fantastic service. There are repeated talking heads on the TV news saying how “we” (the public) shouldn’t have to pay for the treatment of people who are suffering what are often described as self inflicted illness (cancer in smokers, diabetes in the obese etc). However, the problem covers more than the two currently acceptable bugbears of our society.

It is easy, and almost required, for “health experts” to vilify and demonise those who smoke or are overweight (***) – especially at this time of year – and it is also a seductive point that people who smoke or are overweight may cost the NHS more than people who don’t/aren’t. Leaving aside the argument as to if this is even true, the principle is flawed.

The Health Service is there to help care for, treat, heal (etc) the sick. People end up in hospitals for all manner of reasons and trying to deny them access to services based on what is largely a value judgement on their lifestyle is foolhardy. Today we may think of denying smokers who refuse to quit treatment for infections (reduced immune defence) or cancers, and we may think of denying the obese surgery (or pretty much anything) until they lose weight. Why stop with those two groups? When the NHS saves fortunes by this simple limitation of service, it will have its budget cut and have to seek more cost cutting moves.

Why not refuse to treat people who play sports for any related injury? Physiotherapy costs a fortune and easily as many “sporty” people are undergoing it – sprains, tennis elbow, hamstring injuries etc are all the result of a pass-time they have chosen to take part in so why should we [the public] fund their treatment?

If that is too harsh, what about people who drive too fast? If they have an accident why should we [the public] pay for their ambulance and hospital time? Not just people who drive too fast but people who are just crap drivers! The ultimate in self inflicted injury – they are too ignorant to learn to drive well so we shouldn’t treat them at public expense.

This is great. We can include people who injure themselves through incorrect lifting techniques (they should have known better), people who catch STIs from unsafe sex (they should have known better), people who travel abroad and catch illnesses (you get the idea…)

Where do we draw the line? What reasonable criteria is there to deny a “National” service to one segment of society? A valid counter argument is that everyone funds the NHS by their tax payments. Can people who are “refused” a treatment refuse to pay for it?

Equally worrying, this is another example of how an ostensibly socialist government seems happy to encourage a two-tier society. Rich people will not be affected by this, so in reality only the poor serfs are at risk. What happens when the great unwashed, overweight, chain smokers catch the Black Death is anyone’s guess…

Before I rant too much, it seems the newspapers (and TV news) might have got carried away over this. From the BBC website:

Patients with unhealthy lifestyles would not be penalised under a proposed NHS constitution, the government says.

Those offered medical guidance would be encouraged to act in a “responsible” way, health minister Ann Keen said.

Ok, not really reassuring given the governments ability with doublespeak, especially when read in conjunction with this:

A constitution would set out patients’ “rights and responsibilities”, Prime Minister Gordon Brown said.

Interesting choice of words, Mr Brown… Heading back to the Guardian, the article finishes with:

[about NHS reform] And I believe they will transform the experience of the NHS for millions of people in this country.

Does this imply their experience will transform into losing an NHS?

I was googling for some relevant examples to use about this and I came across a quote (attributed to Hitler ) which seems relevant even if its provenance is dubious:

The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode

rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed – Adolf Hitler (****)

Seems a good description of modern society. Would the people of the early 1950’s think we have “progressed” towards the Utopia they hoped the post war years would bring, or are we in fact sliding back to the horrors of the Victorians?

(*) I use this to mean the UK for certain and the US as a probable – the rest of the west is possibly included but I make no general comment as to the rest of the glob.

(**) Before I get shouted at, I am aware the “dark ages” were not as filled with ignorance, suspicion and horrors as my school history class used to pretend. I am also aware that the Dark Ages only really applies to the west, but that is where I live so it is where I assume the whole world lives… I am not alone in this mindset…

(***) Have you seen the Prime Minister?

(****) I have tried, but I have been unable to even slightly verify this is an actual Adolf quote. It seems to be used a lot by right-wingers who want to rubbish the government and may be a form of Godwins Law. Oh, dear Thor, I am turning into a Right Wing Express reader… Strike me down now!


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Posted in Philosophy, Society