In your face, McCarthy

I am usually grateful to commenters who correct obvious errors of fact here, but there was a “correction” from a Catholic called McCarthy, on a post of mine (on the Pope honouring Spanish Civil War clergy* ) a while back, that I took to be anything but correct. So it’s sweet to find the top Spanish Catholic Bishop basically saying what I said.

To quote the Times:

Spain’s most senior bishop has issued an unprecedented apology for the Roman Catholic Church’s role in the Spanish Civil War.
Until now the Church has always highlighted its role as a victim in the 1936-39 war, which ended in victory for Francisco Franco’s troops and marked the start of a fascist dictatorship that lasted until his death in 1975.
Last month Pope Benedict XVI beatified nearly 500 Spanish priests and nuns who were killed in the years before and during the conflict.
Yesterday, however, the head of Spain’s Episcopal Conference said that the Church must also seek forgiveness for “concrete acts” during the strife-torn period.

Respect is due to the Bishop for making an apology. Even more so, when there are still living human beings who were affected by the circumstances and who can hear it, in contradiction of current fashions for apologising for centuries old wrongs.

McCarthyism UK is a pretty dire affair. The current lead post is about how fathers can’t bring up babies properly and the one before worries about what will happen to unbaptised aborted foetuses. And so on.

Mr McCarthy’s blog profile sums himself up as being “For Church, Crown and currency!”

Hmm, an odd combination, albeit alliterative. If he’s historian enough to believe the Spanish church was unconnected with Franco, then he probably wasn’t aware that the British Crown is very specifically C of E. A British monarch isn’t even allowed to marry a Catholic, or wasn’t until recently, (hastily covering my back against any more expert pedants out there.) And currency? Does that mean any currency? Does the Yankee dollar count? Does the Euro count? Does the currency-I’ve-just-made-up of some-place_I’ve-just-made-up because I CBA looking through Wikipedia count? Is he for them all? Does it mean he wants loads of currency?

* A correction of my Rwanda mis-spelling would have been welcome, for example.


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Posted in General, Philosophy, Rants, Raves, Society

Tis the season to milk believers

Both these items are from Libby Purves in the Times (what an unfortunate surname) many of whose posts have been entertaining recently.

(I will pass gracefully over the slur to “guardinistas” in her recent post on a guardian blog about religion and how us atheists shouldn’t upset the bloggers Irish Catholic family with our strident atheism.. 🙂 Most of the comments she saw as ranting from enraged guardianistas seemed at least perfectly rational to me – whether I agreed with the commenter or not. Which is in itself a novelty, given the mad ranting that so often pops up on CIF)

First, the lasermonks who sell printer cartridges, with a range of other monk-producd products you can buy:

In the UK, more modestly, Gorton monastery will provide fridge magnets among other things, and Ampleforth offers Old Amplefordian braces, damson gin, cufflinks , and a link to some Norwegian Cistercian nuns who market moisturizer and “St Olav’s Skin Treatment”, made of pomegranate, aloe vera, peach kernel, yarrow, rosemary and green tea in a bottle with a “real wood” top. No flies on them. Get your Christmas shopping done now.

There’s a great comment from Philip in the USA:

Monks made a lot more money back in the day, when they sold penance. Oh, but then there was that Reformation thing. My bad.

Fridge magnets, braces, cufflinks and moisturiser? Small scale stuff. A bit charming and olde-worlde really. The church used to film “4 Weddings and a Funeral” is more up to date, using the advantages that come from being a Hollywood brand.

The Priory Church of St Gregory the Great (the church made famous by Four Weddings and a Funeral) has installed cash registers at its doors and is charging visitors to come in. It’s the first parish church to demand a fee, seven cathedrals already do so. £4 will get you in – if you’re not there for a service – or for £30 you can go as many times as you like in a year.

I’ll have to set aside the idea that anyone would be drawn by Four Weddings and a Funeral to want to do anything like visiting the church where the aforementioned rites of passage took place, as opposed to, say, giving the director and actors a good kicking. If anything, you would think the association would have driven even the most devout parishioner to think seriously about trusting their spiritual welfare to a different City church.

Turns out it’s for its roof – the archetypal church roof fund – rather than for massive US-pastor-style personal enrichment. What is it about church roofs? Why are they always so crap?

However, this is interesting in itself. It’s the City of London, (to you Americans, it’s like Wall Street, but generally richer….) A fair proportion of its regular visitors could probably buy a new roof without seriously breaking into their annual bonuses. Doesn’t this imply that the City of London’s Christian commodity traders may be a fair bit more in thrall to Mammon than to their supposed Christianity? Perish the thought.


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Posted in Rants, Society