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{"id":1706,"date":"2008-08-11T22:06:15","date_gmt":"2008-08-11T21:06:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.whydontyou.org.uk\/blog\/?p=1706"},"modified":"2008-11-21T22:25:38","modified_gmt":"2008-11-21T22:25:38","slug":"dawkins-on-darwin","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.whydontyou.org.uk\/blog\/2008\/08\/11\/dawkins-on-darwin\/","title":{"rendered":"Dawkins on Darwin"},"content":{"rendered":"

Richard Dawkins is presenting a short Channel 4 series on Darwin. It’s mostly pretty damn good. It’s clear and enthusiastic and really enjoyable. I was really pleased to see that Dawkins opposes the faux-evolutionary nonsense that is used to justify predatory capitalism. <\/p>\n

However, I’ve got to put in a couple of gripes, just to stop this blog being suspected of mere sycophancy:<\/p>\n

Why does he keep referring to Darwinism? There is no Darwinism<\/em>. Dawkins must be getting too many trolls and, absent-mindedly, paying attention to them.<\/p>\n

There is also some justice in Libby Purves’ argument <\/a>that Dawkins has set up too simple a choice between believing in evolution and believing in god(s). In the first programme, he addressed a collection of school students who had been led to believe that accepting evolution ran counter to the religions they were brought up in. So, they didn’t believe in it. He showed them some clear evidence and some of them felt obliged to question their faith. Libby Purves argued that this was a bit of a false example, as there are huge numbers of god-believers who accept the evidence for evolution.<\/p>\n

Dawkins’s response<\/a> seems a bit lame to me.<\/p>\n

She goes on to say, \u201cOK, he is provoked, as we all are, by nutters. But most believers are not creationists.\u201d I expect it\u2019s true that the few believers Libby Purves meets over canap\u00e9s are not creationists. But \u201cmost believers\u201d? Most believers in Bradford? The Scottish Highlands? Pakistan? Indonesia? The Arab world? South America? Indeed, North America? Polls suggest that more than 40 per cent of the British population are creationists. For the subset who call themselves believers, the figure must be considerably more than 50 per cent. Please don\u2019t say \u201cmost people\u201d, when what you really mean is Islington and Hampstead Garden Suburb. <\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Well, stop there Dawkins. “Polls suggest..” What polls? Please don’t say “polls suggest” when what you are really presenting sounds like made up numbers.<\/p>\n

Most people know bugger all about evolution, let alone have views on it. <\/p>\n

But, assuming that Libby Purves is talking about the UK, most people that I know who have any views on evolution take it for granted. In fact, I have never knowingly come across an outspoken creationist. And I certainly don’t live in Islington or Hampstead. Nor would I recognise a canape if it leaped off a silver salver and bit me on the nose. In fact, as a non-Islington-resident prole, I sort of resent the implication that proles are stupider than the rich. <\/p>\n

Anglicans and Catholics don’t have any problem with the theory of evolution, for a start. So the mainstream UK religions aren’t encouraging people to doubt it. South America? Big place. Mostly Catholic, so I assume that evolution is generally accepted there. <\/p>\n

What’s left? Basically North America and Islam. I don’t know enough about the many shades of Islam to judge on this one, although I am pretty confident that most muslims are as unknowing and uninterested in evlutionary theory as most other people. I do think I know that North America is bursting with people who don’t understand <\/del> accept evolution. <\/p>\n

I have to agree with Libby Purves when she said “OK, he is provoked, as we all are, by nutters.” I completely agree with Dawkins that there more than enough of these idiots and that they have to be opposed. But, I don’t think it’s always wise to help them talk up their anti-science madness by presenting a false dichotomy between accepting science and believing in deities. It’s accepting the terms of reference of the creationists, their idea that there is a “debate” between ID and evolution. <\/p>\n

This “debate” can only benefit the nutters. Scientists don’t have to accommodate the creation myths of the vikings<\/a> or the yoruba<\/a> by constantly “debating” whether evolution or the mixture of fire and ice or the formation of dry land from water is true. (In fact, these myths seem far more logical and metaphorically “true” than the middle eastern creation myths.) Why waste too much time and effort challenging the myths that come from the middle east?<\/p>\n

Still, whines over. Bloody good tv overall, to be honest.<\/p>\n

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