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Comments on: Dale Farm (not the yoghurt) http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2011/08/31/dale-farm-not-the-yoghurt/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:50:37 +0000 hourly 1 By: Aitch http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2011/08/31/dale-farm-not-the-yoghurt/comment-page-1/#comment-30424 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 22:50:37 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=3200#comment-30424 This has bugger all to do with green belt. In fact, it exemplifies the way that concepts such as “sustainability” and “ecology” can easily be turned into justifications for authoritarianism as soon as bureaucracies get their hands on the ideas. The greenwashing is close to bringing concern for the planet into disrepute.
Are Basildon Council unique in England in never granting greenbelt planning permission to developers? Do they launch massive actions against every resident who puts up an unplanned shed?
This issue has almost nothing to do with preserving greenbelt land. In any case, there are reports suggesting that the area was apparently previously landfill.
I see this action and the anti-traveller campaigns as symptomatic of a trend in English society towards social repression. There are no longer any margins for travellers to travel in.
In any case. your implication that planning regulations should take precedence over human rights includes such absurd conclusions as that it would be OK to forcibly shift homeless people from their doorways,. given that their makeshift shelters might contravene environmental protection laws.
Apart from the fact that it is only the perceived “ethnicity” of the travellers (temporarily but absurdly assuming that living in a caravan is an “ethnicity”) that has got some local residents so riled and led the council to treat these people as semi-human, I can’t see what ethnicity has to do with it.
Using the full force of the law to disperse squatter camps is a pretty widespread around the planet – carried out by and to people of all ethnicities. And using whatever legal pretext they can find.
The UN Minority rights group and Amnesty International oppose such activities wherever they take place. Or is Essex somehow outside the reach of international law?

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By: David Evans http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2011/08/31/dale-farm-not-the-yoghurt/comment-page-1/#comment-30422 Thu, 01 Sep 2011 16:53:22 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=3200#comment-30422 So, is it your view that green belt restrictions
(i) should never be enforced
or
(ii) should be enforced against some ethnic groups but not others?

If it’s (ii), who is being racist here?

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By: Aitch http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2011/08/31/dale-farm-not-the-yoghurt/comment-page-1/#comment-30416 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:12:16 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=3200#comment-30416 They seem to have shrunk their cost estimate to something that’s not quite so blatantly made up, today.

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By: Irish Centre Online http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2011/08/31/dale-farm-not-the-yoghurt/comment-page-1/#comment-30414 Wed, 31 Aug 2011 12:53:07 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=3200#comment-30414 Why are they paying whoever they are paying, it isnt explained very well

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