Comments on: Please dont label me http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:49:07 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Confused.com http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-25017 Confused.com Sun, 14 Feb 2010 13:34:04 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-25017 Jon, what? Jon, what?

]]> By: Jon http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-24896 Jon Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:38:15 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-24896 <b> So if I show you a picture of sad christian children will that show how bad such an upbringing is? Likewise, if I show you pictures of very happy atheist children will that show how great an atheist upbringing is? </b><b> Quite - yes it will, but the conclusion it will only relate to the upbringing of the individual child or the faith group. So the grouping - the label - is irrelevant to their quality of life. If it's irrelevant then Dawkins objection to it amounts to subjective dislike, which is where he came in in the first place. Intrigued, but not convinced.</b> So if I show you a picture of sad christian children will that show how bad such an upbringing is? Likewise, if I show you pictures of very happy atheist children will that show how great an atheist upbringing is?

Quite – yes it will, but the conclusion it will only relate to the upbringing of the individual child or the faith group. So the grouping – the label – is irrelevant to their quality of life. If it’s irrelevant then Dawkins objection to it amounts to subjective dislike, which is where he came in in the first place.

Intrigued, but not convinced.

]]> By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-24190 TW Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:51:33 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-24190 Is "atheist propaganda" worse than religious propaganda? Or do you think any religious billboards / posters / adverts should be banned? Is the fact that Churches worldwide are still collecting "amazing sums" during a recession a good thing? Is “atheist propaganda” worse than religious propaganda? Or do you think any religious billboards / posters / adverts should be banned?

Is the fact that Churches worldwide are still collecting “amazing sums” during a recession a good thing?

]]> By: Mariano http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-24188 Mariano Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:52:04 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-24188 This is merely more atheist propaganda as Richard Dawkins wonders whether there is occasion for “society stepping in” and hopes that such efforts “might lead children to choose no religion at all.” Dawkins also supports the atheist summer camp “Camp Quest.” Furthermore, with this campaign they are attempting to piggy back on the United Nations. Phillip Pullman states the following about his “fictional” books for children, “I don't think I'm writing fantasy. I think I'm writing realism. My books are psychologically real.” But what does he really write about? As he has admitted, “My books are about killing God” and “I'm trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief.” More evidence here: http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/deceptive-manipulative-propagandist.html Yet again, atheists are collecting “amazing sums” during a time of worldwide recession not in order to help anyone in real material need but in order to attempt to demonstrate just how clever they consider themselves to be—while actually loudly, proudly and expensively demonstrating their ignorance and arrogance—need any more be said? This is merely more atheist propaganda as Richard Dawkins wonders whether there is occasion for “society stepping in” and hopes that such efforts “might lead children to choose no religion at all.” Dawkins also supports the atheist summer camp “Camp Quest.” Furthermore, with this campaign they are attempting to piggy back on the United Nations.

Phillip Pullman states the following about his “fictional” books for children, “I don’t think I’m writing fantasy. I think I’m writing realism. My books are psychologically real.” But what does he really write about? As he has admitted, “My books are about killing God” and “I’m trying to undermine the basis of Christian belief.”

More evidence here:
http://atheismisdead.blogspot.com/2009/11/deceptive-manipulative-propagandist.html

Yet again, atheists are collecting “amazing sums” during a time of worldwide recession not in order to help anyone in real material need but in order to attempt to demonstrate just how clever they consider themselves to be—while actually loudly, proudly and expensively demonstrating their ignorance and arrogance—need any more be said?

]]> By: Dawkins is the Devil – lying for jeebus… » Why Dont You Blog? http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-24124 Dawkins is the Devil – lying for jeebus… » Why Dont You Blog? Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:58:55 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-24124 [...] Previously I mentioned about how Ruth Gledhill had monumentally missed the point with her TimesOnline blog post about the latest Humanist campaign to try and stop people labelling their children without given them a choice. [...] [...] Previously I mentioned about how Ruth Gledhill had monumentally missed the point with her TimesOnline blog post about the latest Humanist campaign to try and stop people labelling their children without given them a choice. [...]

]]> By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-24123 TW Sat, 21 Nov 2009 10:57:11 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-24123 Jacqui, <blockquote>I think it is hilarious that Almighty God has arranged for children of evangelical Christian parents to be “chosen” for this campaign.</blockquote> Well that is certainly one viewpoint, but not one I would share. It is good to see, though, that you feel your god would support what is essentially an atheist campaign. I agree with this, I think if your god does exist he would be more in favour of atheists than christians. <blockquote>They are obviously very happy, and thus show how great a Christian upbringing is.</blockquote> So if I show you a picture of sad christian children will that show how bad such an upbringing is? Likewise, if I show you pictures of very happy atheist children will that show how great an atheist upbringing is? Jacqui,

I think it is hilarious that Almighty God has arranged for children of evangelical Christian parents to be “chosen” for this campaign.

Well that is certainly one viewpoint, but not one I would share. It is good to see, though, that you feel your god would support what is essentially an atheist campaign.

I agree with this, I think if your god does exist he would be more in favour of atheists than christians.

They are obviously very happy, and thus show how great a Christian upbringing is.

So if I show you a picture of sad christian children will that show how bad such an upbringing is? Likewise, if I show you pictures of very happy atheist children will that show how great an atheist upbringing is?

]]> By: 1minion http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-24116 1minion Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:13:08 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-24116 I like this ad campaign better than the "stop worrying" one. Parents seem to give their kids so much choice in every other area of life but can't extend the choice to a belief or philosophy? I like this ad campaign better than the “stop worrying” one. Parents seem to give their kids so much choice in every other area of life but can’t extend the choice to a belief or philosophy?

]]> By: AlexMagd http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-24115 AlexMagd Sat, 21 Nov 2009 00:32:03 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-24115 It totally misses the point! Even if they were the children of the world's most devout Christian the point still stands. They're not there to be poster-children for atheism (notice that "atheist child" is up there with the rest!) and the fact that they have massively religious families just underscores the point that we shouldn't assume the children believe the same as their parents. How cretinous can you be! It totally misses the point! Even if they were the children of the world’s most devout Christian the point still stands. They’re not there to be poster-children for atheism (notice that “atheist child” is up there with the rest!) and the fact that they have massively religious families just underscores the point that we shouldn’t assume the children believe the same as their parents. How cretinous can you be!

]]> By: Jacqui http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/20/please-dont-label-me/comment-page-1/#comment-24114 Jacqui Fri, 20 Nov 2009 22:05:27 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2865#comment-24114 I think it is hilarious that Almighty God has arranged for children of evangelical Christian parents to be "chosen" for this campaign. They are obviously very happy, and thus show how great a Christian upbringing is. Psalm 14:1 comes to mind. With every blessing to you from someone who is very grateful that she was sent to Sunday School as a child and even named a Christian. This put me in good stead when my life fell apart in 1994 and I was able to draw on the faith that was taught me as a child. At 41 years of age I actually did become a Christian and I now know that there definitely is a God. I think it is hilarious that Almighty God has arranged for children of evangelical Christian parents to be “chosen” for this campaign. They are obviously very happy, and thus show how great a Christian upbringing is. Psalm 14:1 comes to mind. With every blessing to you from someone who is very grateful that she was sent to Sunday School as a child and even named a Christian. This put me in good stead when my life fell apart in 1994 and I was able to draw on the faith that was taught me as a child. At 41 years of age I actually did become a Christian and I now know that there definitely is a God.

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