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Comments on: Killing off the needy http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/19/killing-off-the-needy/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:52:29 +0000 hourly 1 By: Heather http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/19/killing-off-the-needy/comment-page-1/#comment-24156 Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:52:29 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2860#comment-24156 I am totally impressed by the idea that a house can be airtight……
Ignoring that comedy idea, I work in a building that was claimed to need no central heating or cooling because of its magic eco-ness. Obviously, the first summer – when it was unbearably hot – and the first winter – when it was unfeasibly cold – put paid to that and the eco-non-heating and non-cooling had to be supplemented by, erm, heating and cooling.
Ironically- the toilet eco-taps (faucets to you yanks) – once switched on, pour out hot water for a set time, without human intervention. My plans to collect the waste 5 minutes of hot water in a huge thermos flask – to cut my own energy and water wastage – have not yet been implemented due to idleness and failure to have a giant thermos.
Mostly eco-tech is greenwash tech. Created by people who think “bugger the planet, there’s a fat contract to be had here.”

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By: Yoplait http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/19/killing-off-the-needy/comment-page-1/#comment-24128 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:06:39 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2860#comment-24128 The idea of living in belfast without central heating is barking mad. Most places on that latitude, with a similar climate central heat everything. The argument they can put “more clothes on” is crazy. You want these people to pay £100k to live in a glorified igloo? Outrageous.

Also – if they are in air tight houses, how can they light fires? How can they even increase their activity levels to generate more heat.

The whole idea is stupid.

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By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/19/killing-off-the-needy/comment-page-1/#comment-24110 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:20:24 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2860#comment-24110 Michael,

I am not saying it is insurmountable, but generally cultures where people expect to live in this manner are better prepared for it. For example, people who need social housing in Belfast are unlikely to be able to afford the cost of several small heaters to keep their house warm. Central heating is one of the more cost effective ways of keeping your house at an acceptable temperature.

Obviously the goal is for it to save energy, however I dont think it will achieve this. People will do things like running electric heaters, having the fire on more (etc) which will require more energy.

I suspect that all this will do is transfer where the energy cost takes place, rather than reduce it. The idea that people are paying high rates, and self building, these properties, which are (IMHO of course) below the normal standard is strange.

Anyway, the central heating wasn’t the primary spark for the post – I found the concept of the houses being “air tight” so comical I couldn’t pass it up.

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By: Marie Curie High School http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/19/killing-off-the-needy/comment-page-1/#comment-24109 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:20:13 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2860#comment-24109 I am a master of Marie Curie high school, I’d like your blog.
I will tell my student about your post for them to get more exp

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By: Michael http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/11/19/killing-off-the-needy/comment-page-1/#comment-24105 Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:03:53 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2860#comment-24105 Umm, central heating is rare in Australia – even those parts which regularly have similarly shithouse weather (Tasmania). People use fires or small gas or electric heaters to heat where they are at the time, and have warm bedding. And they wear winter clothes during winter, not just t-shirts inside an over-heated building. And the insulation standard here is terrible, even double glazing isn’t common.

This doesn’t seem terribly bad, and should save significant energy costs in the long run.

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