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	<description>Challenging the Zeitgeist</description>
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		<title>By: K</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/08/28/no-educashun/comment-page-1/#comment-22919</link>
		<dc:creator>K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 01:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;How could any child subjected to this have a hope in hell of fitting in with other people,&lt;/i&gt;

Other people? It&#039;s called the Southern and Midwestern U.S.

&lt;i&gt;let alone of thinking for themselves?&lt;/i&gt;

Bah. Independent thought is Satan&#039;s Doorway!

How can I make you understand this country of mine... Never mind, I can&#039;t, I don&#039;t understand it myself. When we have &lt;i&gt;universities&lt;/i&gt; that teach religious dogmatic curricula, how can any other modern country take us seriously? Heck, I&#039;m not sure &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; take us seriously anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>How could any child subjected to this have a hope in hell of fitting in with other people,</i></p>
<p>Other people? It&#8217;s called the Southern and Midwestern U.S.</p>
<p><i>let alone of thinking for themselves?</i></p>
<p>Bah. Independent thought is Satan&#8217;s Doorway!</p>
<p>How can I make you understand this country of mine&#8230; Never mind, I can&#8217;t, I don&#8217;t understand it myself. When we have <i>universities</i> that teach religious dogmatic curricula, how can any other modern country take us seriously? Heck, I&#8217;m not sure <i>I</i> take us seriously anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/08/28/no-educashun/comment-page-1/#comment-22861</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 16:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angie

That explains it a bit, :-) 
As does  the internet  I almost can&#039;t remember how anyone lived without the internet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angie</p>
<p>That explains it a bit, <img src='http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
As does  the internet  I almost can&#8217;t remember how anyone lived without the internet.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/08/28/no-educashun/comment-page-1/#comment-22860</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the articulate, bright and open-minded (thanks!) didn&#039;t happen till the Internet.  My mom was a professor so I was on her office computer the year the internet got launched.  I am an &quot;internet evangelist&quot; and am always trying to get people online, or online more, or finding cooler shit.  I love the internet.  I don&#039;t have an excuse for not knowing something now.  If I want to know - I Google!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the articulate, bright and open-minded (thanks!) didn&#8217;t happen till the Internet.  My mom was a professor so I was on her office computer the year the internet got launched.  I am an &#8220;internet evangelist&#8221; and am always trying to get people online, or online more, or finding cooler shit.  I love the internet.  I don&#8217;t have an excuse for not knowing something now.  If I want to know &#8211; I Google!</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/08/28/no-educashun/comment-page-1/#comment-22859</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:54:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather - I was homeschooled 2 years, went to Christian school 2 years, went to (well funded) midwestern public school for 2.5 years, went to 3 shitty Florida middle schools in 2.5 years, then 1 well-funded performing arts high school, 2 poorly funded regular public high schools, and GED school (once I got kicked out of my third high school).  I have opinions on EVERY form of education, lol.  By far the best in-school education I got was at the well-funded elementary school.  I had private free violin lessons and clarinet lessons, and a private Advanced tutor who would give me year long projects and do science experiments with me and such.  Just free because the school had enough money for a fourth-grade orchestra.

I gotta move before Little Man reaches Kindergarten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather &#8211; I was homeschooled 2 years, went to Christian school 2 years, went to (well funded) midwestern public school for 2.5 years, went to 3 shitty Florida middle schools in 2.5 years, then 1 well-funded performing arts high school, 2 poorly funded regular public high schools, and GED school (once I got kicked out of my third high school).  I have opinions on EVERY form of education, lol.  By far the best in-school education I got was at the well-funded elementary school.  I had private free violin lessons and clarinet lessons, and a private Advanced tutor who would give me year long projects and do science experiments with me and such.  Just free because the school had enough money for a fourth-grade orchestra.</p>
<p>I gotta move before Little Man reaches Kindergarten.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 23:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chaplain

Yes, the twisted history is shocking isn&#039;t it?

I take your point that not all homeschoolers are crazy. (Nor do I think that normal schools are necessarily great.)  

I think the thing that really disturbs me is there is no protection for those kids who have the bad luck to be brought up by the most ignorant bigots. They would be better off if they were raised by wolves.

Angie
You sort of contradict the horror of Christian cult homeschooling  though, by ending up by being so articulate and bright and open-minded.

 Although, just being homeschooled so young  may not count. Phew.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chaplain</p>
<p>Yes, the twisted history is shocking isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>I take your point that not all homeschoolers are crazy. (Nor do I think that normal schools are necessarily great.)  </p>
<p>I think the thing that really disturbs me is there is no protection for those kids who have the bad luck to be brought up by the most ignorant bigots. They would be better off if they were raised by wolves.</p>
<p>Angie<br />
You sort of contradict the horror of Christian cult homeschooling  though, by ending up by being so articulate and bright and open-minded.</p>
<p> Although, just being homeschooled so young  may not count. Phew.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angie Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh, ooh, I *was* a homeschooled Christian - can I weigh in?

Of course, I was only home schooled for Kindergarten and first grade, which basically consisted of watching PBS (educational cartoons) and doing phonics workbooks.  I come from a bright family though, and one of readers so there were always books around.  I think even if they hadn&#039;t &quot;taught&quot; me I would&#039;ve learned most of what I needed to know.

However, I used to babysit a lot of homeschooled kids and I knew nine year old that couldn&#039;t freaking read.  It&#039;s abusive, or at least neglectful.  I think there needs to be governmental oversight and minimum standards for home schooled students and their parents, just like their are for public and private schools.  If mom or dad can&#039;t pass a basic literacy/competancy exam, then the kids ought to be in public school for their own good.  Illiteracy is a cruel thing to do to a child.  I used to give free tutoring in reading for other little girls in my cult.  (I was all subversive and snuck them reading material not approved of by their parents - once they had something *interesting* instead of Bible shit, they picked up pretty quickly.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, ooh, I *was* a homeschooled Christian &#8211; can I weigh in?</p>
<p>Of course, I was only home schooled for Kindergarten and first grade, which basically consisted of watching PBS (educational cartoons) and doing phonics workbooks.  I come from a bright family though, and one of readers so there were always books around.  I think even if they hadn&#8217;t &#8220;taught&#8221; me I would&#8217;ve learned most of what I needed to know.</p>
<p>However, I used to babysit a lot of homeschooled kids and I knew nine year old that couldn&#8217;t freaking read.  It&#8217;s abusive, or at least neglectful.  I think there needs to be governmental oversight and minimum standards for home schooled students and their parents, just like their are for public and private schools.  If mom or dad can&#8217;t pass a basic literacy/competancy exam, then the kids ought to be in public school for their own good.  Illiteracy is a cruel thing to do to a child.  I used to give free tutoring in reading for other little girls in my cult.  (I was all subversive and snuck them reading material not approved of by their parents &#8211; once they had something *interesting* instead of Bible shit, they picked up pretty quickly.)</p>
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		<title>By: the chaplain</title>
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		<dc:creator>the chaplain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>K-3 means kindergarten through third grade, usually 5 years old to 8 years old. Kindergarten is the year before 1st grade in North American schools - sort of like training wheels for the real thing.

This made me gag: &lt;i&gt;“World History Made Simple: Matching History With the Bible.”&lt;/i&gt; The warning that went along with &lt;i&gt;&quot;The Story of the World&quot;&lt;/i&gt; was gag-inducing too.

To be fair, I&#039;ve known some people - Christians even - who have home-schooled their children pretty well. I just hope they&#039;re typical and not the exceptions to the rule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>K-3 means kindergarten through third grade, usually 5 years old to 8 years old. Kindergarten is the year before 1st grade in North American schools &#8211; sort of like training wheels for the real thing.</p>
<p>This made me gag: <i>“World History Made Simple: Matching History With the Bible.”</i> The warning that went along with <i>&#8220;The Story of the World&#8221;</i> was gag-inducing too.</p>
<p>To be fair, I&#8217;ve known some people &#8211; Christians even &#8211; who have home-schooled their children pretty well. I just hope they&#8217;re typical and not the exceptions to the rule.</p>
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		<title>By: Angie Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/08/28/no-educashun/comment-page-1/#comment-22797</link>
		<dc:creator>Angie Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heather dear, I believe you&#039;re operating under false impressions.  These parents don&#039;t want their child to fit in with other people OR think for themselves.  They want them to be &quot;narrow road&quot; obedient Christians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather dear, I believe you&#8217;re operating under false impressions.  These parents don&#8217;t want their child to fit in with other people OR think for themselves.  They want them to be &#8220;narrow road&#8221; obedient Christians.</p>
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