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Comments on: When religion really is to blame http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/01/11/when-religion-really-is-to-blame/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:50:10 +0000 hourly 1 By: Stupidity and lies for Jesus » Why Dont You Blog? http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/01/11/when-religion-really-is-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-14952 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 20:50:10 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2287#comment-14952 […] stumbled across more mind-bending nonsense on the crazy-fest that is Yahoo! Answers. As I mentioned previously, this (*) is a haven for the weird and wonderful ideas people can come up with. Sadly, in the best […]

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By: Tommykey http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2009/01/11/when-religion-really-is-to-blame/comment-page-1/#comment-14930 Mon, 12 Jan 2009 02:08:09 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=2287#comment-14930 It would be fair to argue that the initial cataltyst for the Crusades was defensive. The Eastern Romans, or Byzantines, after having their asses handed to them by the Seljurk Turks at Manzikert in 1071, appealed to the Pope and the Latins for some knights to help them recover Asia Minor from the Turks. Recovering Jerusalem was the last thing on the minds of the Byzantines, which they had lost over four centuries earlier.

It was in response to the Byzantine request for aid that the Pope seized on the idea of a campaign to recover Jerusalem from the Saracens. It would be a way of uniting the warring kingdoms of Christendom in a common cause, particularly channeling the aggressive Normans, who were then making their way into the Mediterranean. And as an added bonus, it might result in the Catholic Church in Rome achieving supremacy over the Greek Orthodox church in the East.

For the participants in the Crusades themselves, they were never threatened by Muslim aggression, so the idea that they were participating in a defensive conflict is ridiculous. The leaders of the campaigns were more interested in carving out principalities for themselves in the Levant. If they were really serious about rolling back Islam itself, they would have assisted the Byzantines in completely expelling the Seljuk Turks from Asia Minor. After all, as long as the Seljuk sultanate of Konya remained in central Asia Minor, the Crusader states in the Levant could never really be secure.

Of course, the ultimate irony is that the Crusades may have unintentionally facilitated the rise of the Ottoman Turks and their advance into Europe. By seizing the Byzantine capital of Constantinople in 1204, the Crusaders weakened the one Christian power that had long prevented the Muslims from gaining a foothold in Europe.

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