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Comments on: Fish-oil on trial http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/09/25/fish-oil-on-trial/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:22:19 +0000 hourly 1 By: Fishoil Scam hits news eventually » Why Dont You Blog? http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/09/25/fish-oil-on-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-13914 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:22:19 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1887#comment-13914 […] you almost heard it here first. In an unusual turn of events, the always educational Ben Goldacre has managed to scoop the BBC […]

]]> By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/09/25/fish-oil-on-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-13913 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:04:52 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1887#comment-13913 Evidencekagoul – excellent comment and I couldn’t agree more.

It is shocking that a council is prepared to use public funds for this sort of “experiment” – especially as you point out, with a total lack of oversight. It is equally bad if the funds were just for a commercial trial – do we really think so little of our children…?

In a nutshell, I can only think that the council thought it would be OK because they, like most people, are aware that all this nutritionist nonsense is pure hokum and this was just a large placebo group…

(Sadly, the cynic in me realises they probably don’t think this)

]]> By: evidencekagoul http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/09/25/fish-oil-on-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-13912 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:33:39 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1887#comment-13912 There is one thing that really concerns me about this piece of experimentation. I’m a health researcher. If I want to do research involving either adults on children, I need to get full ethical clearance from an ethics committee. In the past, when I have been involved in research involving children in schools, it has had to have explicit ethical approval from the ethics committee of the relevant education department, and also by a separate University ethics committee. This is as it should be. If I didn’t do this, I would probably be severly disciplined and possibly lose my job. It would also be in violation of the Delaration of Helsinki, which among other things covers medical experimentation – which giving children fishy tablets surely is – whether or not it is physicians giving out the pills. In any case the Declaration also covers human experiments (like htis one) conducted by non-medics. But here we have experimenters doling out drugs to children, apparently with the blessing of the council, head teachers and so on. So the key questions are: 1) what ethics committee, if any, agreed to this study, and if they did, can we see the minutes of the relevant meeting; and 2) if this was not passed by any ethics committee, why were the experimenters allowed to conduct medical experiments (whether methodically rigorous or not) on schoolchildren? Or have I missed something…

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