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Comments on: Faith Blinds http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Fri, 09 May 2008 15:53:42 +0000 hourly 1 By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12632 Fri, 09 May 2008 15:53:42 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12632 XanderG – I did a bit of comment editing for you.

I agree about Rick…

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By: XanderG http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12627 Fri, 09 May 2008 09:26:20 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12627 Damn, the quotation above should be “(Why is water capitalised?) “.

I hate blockquotes.

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By: XanderG http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12626 Fri, 09 May 2008 09:25:01 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12626

(Why is water capitalised?)

It’s Divine Water, made from the Tears of the Almighty because Nasty Atheists deny Baby Jesus.

Or judging from the last line, Rick’s just plain old bat-shit crazy.

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By: null http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12611 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:26:43 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12611 Ah, what Ted has failed into account in magic wood, that lasts forever, but must (must I tell thee!) look and act like ordinary wood under duress. Unless it needs to confirm something claimed in scripture, in which case it’s magic wood again, until scientists get their hands on it, in which case … 😉

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By: Ted Goas http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12610 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:18:22 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12610 Ooops! Sorry for the extra bold comment above!

One more thing I wanted to comment on: this quote “I Just Wanted All Of You To Know All Of You Are Dead Wrong…”

Really? No one else knows the answer for sure, but this one person knows the answer? Has some deeper wisdom? Reminds me of conspiracy theorists…

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By: Ted Goas http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12609 Thu, 08 May 2008 17:15:30 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12609 Great post! The story of Noah’s Ark never gets old. I still chuckle when I hear that someone claims to have found remnants of Noah’s ark. Are they not aware that wood decays, and quite fast? If the ark existed and landed on Mount Ararat, it would have completely decayed in a few hundred years.

We recently wrote a piece on The Great Flood. This particular story doesn’t cover the ark itself, the animals or Noah. Rather it focuses on the Flood and if the story depicted in the Bible is feasible on this planet.

Always interested in reading more about Noah’s Ark, if you have anything else…

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By: null http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12605 Thu, 08 May 2008 10:07:10 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12605 I can’t believe that someone allowed to opine in The Times can’t even spell a simple word like “animated”.

Rick, however, does sound hilarious. I’d like to take him drinking.

@TC: holy crap! I never realised that christians made up so much shit to justify their fancy for their “good” god. That’s some serious brain twisting going on there.

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By: the chaplain http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12596 Wed, 07 May 2008 22:55:37 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12596 Great post. I was splitting my side laughing all the way through. 😀 One question: were the Christian comments all in Comic Sans font? That seems to be sort of a Christian trademark.

Okay – do you really want the quick lowdown on the three wills of God?

First: God’s Perfect Will (it’s a Christian concept, so I’ll Capitalize It like They Do 😈 ) – this is God’s Plan A, which is when everybody does exactly what He always Wanted Them to Do in the First Place. No Sins or Mistakes.

Second: God’s Permissive Will – this is what happens when Human Free Will enters the picture. Humans usually find ways to deviate from Perfect Plan A, so this is Plan B. It’s not what God Would Have Chosen, but He’ll Find A Way to make things work out for The Best.

Third: God’s Conditional Will – this is tied to laws of nature. These have been established by God and He doesn’t usually interfere with their operation, except when He does (those cases are known as Miracles). So, for example, the airplane door blows open and the passenger sitting right there gets sucked out, plummets 30,000 feet to the ground and dies. Since God never wills for His Children to suffer, this can’t be an example of His Perfect Will. Since it’s probable that the Passenger did not plan to Get Sucked Out and Dropped to the Ground, this isn’t God’s Permissive Will either. Therefore, since certain physical laws (gravity and the like) are at play, this tragedy is an example of Conditional Will: the Unlucky Passenger is subject to the Same Physical Laws as the Rest of the Universe. God Cannot Be Blamed for allowing the system He Created to operate according to the Rules He Established.

The upshot of all this is the Standard Christian Position: God is Not Responsible When Shit Happens, but He’s Always to Be Praised When Good Things Happen. I gotta get me a gig like that. 😆

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By: Alun http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/05/07/faith-blinds/comment-page-1/#comment-12594 Wed, 07 May 2008 22:21:21 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/?p=1556#comment-12594 I like the idea that our bodies were designed to be guided by the Holy Spirit. That’s an excellent idea. Of course if our bodies aren’t guided by the Holy Spirit then clearly God gave us faulty ones and we should be able to take them back and exchange them. I wonder if He’d take requests as I can imagine a few bodies I’d like to get my hands on.

What I don’t understand is how he gets the conclusion that a God can do whatever he pleases. Isn’t that what fundamentalists say is the trouble with atheists? Would that make God an atheist?

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