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Comments on: Journalistic Integrity http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:57:45 +0000 hourly 1 By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-10611 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:57:45 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/#comment-10611 Plonkee – I am very glad you heard it as well, I couldn’t find it online so had begun to think I might have made it up.

I did a search on BBC news to see if I could find it, however the only references seemed to be ones from last year singing the praises of how the rate of conviction in domestic abuse cases was going up…

As to the low conviction rate – yes it is very low, but from my limited exposure to criminology there could be dozens of reasons for this. Domestic violence cases are always going to be subject to fickle victims, a lack of witnesses and emotional attachments. I think 1 in 5 convictions would be a very good rate, so 17% seems reasonable. I am always concerned when the media / police talk about having to increase the rate of convictions – this is easiest done by convicting innocent people…

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By: plonkee http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-10604 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:35:54 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/#comment-10604 I heard this report as well. When you think about it, it’s surprising that the conviction rate didn’t drop – people that weren’t previously reporting crimes aren’t likely to have had easier cases to convict on (if that makes sense). On the other hand, 17% is a low conviction rate, and anecdotal evidence presented by the journalist suggested that the sentencing was unduly lenient – no hard figures to back this up though.

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By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-10584 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:04:09 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/#comment-10584 well spotted.

I hang my head in shame. I will leave the text as is though to show my mistake.

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By: Heather http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-10583 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:51:18 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/#comment-10583 TW
Very good post.

But I think you’ve accidentally done the same thing yourself. You say
“the Shankill Butchers killed 150% more Protestants than Catholics”
but the numb3rs actually show – the second number of victims (12) is about ‘50% more’ or ‘150% of’ the first number (7) 🙂

Signed
A Pedant

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By: the chaplain http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/comment-page-1/#comment-10578 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:14:55 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/14/journalistic-integrity/#comment-10578 Good catch on the statistical sleight of hand. That kind of shift is common in media reports. The system has actually remained consistent, not deteriorated as the reporter seems to imply.

Re: the Shankill coverage, that sort of skewed emphasis does nothing to reconcile groups who already distrust each other. Nice public service, that. 🙁

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