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Comments on: My word is my bond http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:47:46 +0000 hourly 1 By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/comment-page-1/#comment-10493 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 19:47:46 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/#comment-10493 This is something which really annoys me.

The idea that forcing someone to take an oath has any value is stunning. Forcing children to take an oath strikes me (and always has) as pointless – it doesn’t create unity where there is none and does not instil civic pride where there is none. This is one of many examples of people in the UK looking to other countries and trying to cherry pick their cultural values without realising the impact other cultural values have on them.

For example, in the US the pledge may indeed instil civic pride and a sense of national identity but that is surely down to the rest of the cultural system that surrounds it.

IMHO people should take an oath of allegiance because they understand what it entails and are willing to be held to it. Forcing children to take it demeans the concept – children do not choose to be born British, so how can the oath be binding. If it is not binding, why do it?

(slippery slope alert) Take this in the context of ID cards, uniformed soldiers on the streets and massive amounts of government surveillance and it really makes you wonder what happened to Great Britain…

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By: In search of an identity « La Vie Quotidienne http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/comment-page-1/#comment-10489 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:13:16 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/#comment-10489 […] My word is my bond on Why Don’t You […]

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By: Daniel of Daniels Counter http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/comment-page-1/#comment-10474 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:15:33 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/#comment-10474 Well said bron and goldsmiths are simply a brown suspect lot. Just like blair before. I also wrote about teh citizenship rubbish at length. will give you a cross link as extra reads on this topic!

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By: Daniel of Daniels Counter http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/comment-page-1/#comment-10473 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:14:29 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/#comment-10473 Totally agree with you mate. Brown and Goldsmiths are a brown lot. simple! I also wrote about this and will ad your words as an extra link on the theme in a moment. Best Daniel

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By: Keith T. http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/comment-page-1/#comment-10471 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:52:57 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2008/03/11/my-word-is-my-bond/#comment-10471 As an American, allow me to say…. WTF, this is actually a matter of controversial debate for you guys? OMG. Yer lucky.

I mean, you don’t have to Pledge Allegiance To The Flag And To The Republic For Which It Stands One Nation Under (coughcough) Indivisible With Liberty And Justice For All?

Sorry, it just sort of all came out as reflex.

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