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	<title>Comments on: Terrible Pipex Service - Fiasco Continues</title>
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		<title>By: clare b</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/09/28/terrible-pipex-service-fiasco-continues/#comment-8994</link>
		<dc:creator>clare b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am suing pipex and the case is due to come to court in January 2007.  They are a joke!  Please feel free to email me.</description>
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		<title>By: Pipex: Farce upon Farce &#187; Why Dont You Blog?</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/09/28/terrible-pipex-service-fiasco-continues/#comment-8598</link>
		<dc:creator>Pipex: Farce upon Farce &#187; Why Dont You Blog?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wont fully repeat the tale of farce which has Pipex firmly in my &#8220;Bad Shop&#8221; category (in fact, I suspect they have more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Challenge Religion - Today&#8217;s Top Blog Posts on Atheism - Powered by SocialRank</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/09/28/terrible-pipex-service-fiasco-continues/#comment-8580</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TW</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/09/28/terrible-pipex-service-fiasco-continues/#comment-8555</link>
		<dc:creator>TW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 15:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, thanks for your comment. I can certainly attest that I have not fallen hook line and sinker and misunderstood the technology. When I wrote:

&lt;blockquote&gt;"This jaw dropping announcement left me silent for a moment or two while it really sunk in that he thought three hundred and fifty kilobytes per second was “about” four megabytes per second."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Was, as heather pointed out, a typo. When I was talking about the actual broadband speed I expect you can see I used the mbps and kbps. 

The fact the technical support person thought 400kbps was about "four megabytes per second" (his exact words) is the point I was trying to get across.

I am more than aware of the difference between bits and bytes, and how the quoted speed of telecommunications systems are often different from the reality.

I have never, ever, expected to get 4 megabytes per second on my line. At the moment it is not even rated at 8 megabits - it is rated at 500kilobits (as I said). Thank you for suggesting I do some research - I do try to ensure I do as much research as possible. Is there any particular thing you want me to look into?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, thanks for your comment. I can certainly attest that I have not fallen hook line and sinker and misunderstood the technology. When I wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;This jaw dropping announcement left me silent for a moment or two while it really sunk in that he thought three hundred and fifty kilobytes per second was “about” four megabytes per second.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Was, as heather pointed out, a typo. When I was talking about the actual broadband speed I expect you can see I used the mbps and kbps. </p>
<p>The fact the technical support person thought 400kbps was about &#8220;four megabytes per second&#8221; (his exact words) is the point I was trying to get across.</p>
<p>I am more than aware of the difference between bits and bytes, and how the quoted speed of telecommunications systems are often different from the reality.</p>
<p>I have never, ever, expected to get 4 megabytes per second on my line. At the moment it is not even rated at 8 megabits - it is rated at 500kilobits (as I said). Thank you for suggesting I do some research - I do try to ensure I do as much research as possible. Is there any particular thing you want me to look into?</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/09/28/terrible-pipex-service-fiasco-continues/#comment-8550</link>
		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Misunderstood the technology?

I don't think you've understood TW's point here. He may have written "megabytes" rather than megabits (as a typo, though i can't spot it. I just see mbps). 

His point is that he is not getting within a tenth of the speed that he expects from his ADSL service.  He is connecting to the Internet at basically dial-up speed. DIAL-UP Speed, call it what you will in megabits, megaflops or megastars. 

He is paying as much as I am paying for getting almost the full 20 megabits that I get with a cable connection.  And he is getting treated like crap when he tries to get it sorted.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;ve understood TW&#8217;s point here. He may have written &#8220;megabytes&#8221; rather than megabits (as a typo, though i can&#8217;t spot it. I just see mbps). </p>
<p>His point is that he is not getting within a tenth of the speed that he expects from his ADSL service.  He is connecting to the Internet at basically dial-up speed. DIAL-UP Speed, call it what you will in megabits, megaflops or megastars. </p>
<p>He is paying as much as I am paying for getting almost the full 20 megabits that I get with a cable connection.  And he is getting treated like crap when he tries to get it sorted.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/09/28/terrible-pipex-service-fiasco-continues/#comment-8549</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 07:18:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may be experiencing problems at the moment but you have fallen hook line and sinker and misunderstood the technology.

You mention 4 megabytes as being the download speed when infact you would never get that, the Max on your line is 8 megabits, yes, megabits, do some research and post back. You might be interested in what you find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may be experiencing problems at the moment but you have fallen hook line and sinker and misunderstood the technology.</p>
<p>You mention 4 megabytes as being the download speed when infact you would never get that, the Max on your line is 8 megabits, yes, megabits, do some research and post back. You might be interested in what you find.</p>
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		<title>By: Mana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 03:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate the quasi-monopoly of Internet companies. In my Chicago area there are only about 3 choices for broadband, and they're all about the same (average quality). Some days I work from my home office and last week my cable went down the day before I was to work from home. I threw a fit of major proportions and was envisioning myself in an uncomfortable seat at the Starbucks around the corner using their wireless. I am a web marketer for Pete's sake, I'm supposed to be wired in!!!! At the same time my phone doesn't work because I'm using voip. Well, I turn on the wireless on my laptop and pick up about 5 different unprotected networks. So when the market economy fails, turn to hacking. Uhm no, I don't truly advise that, but desperate times call for desperate measures. :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate the quasi-monopoly of Internet companies. In my Chicago area there are only about 3 choices for broadband, and they&#8217;re all about the same (average quality). Some days I work from my home office and last week my cable went down the day before I was to work from home. I threw a fit of major proportions and was envisioning myself in an uncomfortable seat at the Starbucks around the corner using their wireless. I am a web marketer for Pete&#8217;s sake, I&#8217;m supposed to be wired in!!!! At the same time my phone doesn&#8217;t work because I&#8217;m using voip. Well, I turn on the wireless on my laptop and pick up about 5 different unprotected networks. So when the market economy fails, turn to hacking. Uhm no, I don&#8217;t truly advise that, but desperate times call for desperate measures. <img src='http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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