Comments on: Hollow holistics http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:29:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Channelling Dawkins » Why Dont You Blog? http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/#comment-8235 Channelling Dawkins » Why Dont You Blog? Mon, 20 Aug 2007 20:41:53 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/#comment-8235 [...] put lots of the same points that I ineptly failed to make in any comprehensible manner, in a previous post on holistic medicine. paying for other people’s gullibility, alternative therapies meeting a need for attention, [...] [...] put lots of the same points that I ineptly failed to make in any comprehensible manner, in a previous post on holistic medicine. paying for other people’s gullibility, alternative therapies meeting a need for attention, [...]

]]> By: Heather http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/#comment-8234 Heather Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:46:59 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/#comment-8234 John P :-D Ann OK. I meant "somatising". I should have been clearer. I meant people feel bad and express it through their bodies. (I shudder at the word somatising. I couldn't bring myself to use it, just prejudice.) What I was trying to imply was that people who need attention are better off getting it in real life than paying someone to agree with them and then "take away" the symptoms. This doesn't even acknowledge, let alone address whatever is wrong. Why on earth treat illnesses with unproven treatments? My problem with this is it involves self-deception and the deception of another person. And costs the health service money. John P :-D Ann
OK. I meant “somatising”. I should have been clearer. I meant people feel bad and express it through their bodies. (I shudder at the word somatising. I couldn’t bring myself to use it, just prejudice.)

What I was trying to imply was that people who need attention are better off getting it in real life than paying someone to agree with them and then “take away” the symptoms. This doesn’t even acknowledge, let alone address whatever is wrong.

Why on earth treat illnesses with unproven treatments?

My problem with this is it involves self-deception and the deception of another person. And costs the health service money.

]]> By: John P http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/#comment-8230 John P Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:01:58 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/#comment-8230 <blockquote cite="There is no need to remove any clothing as Reiki will pass through anything, even plaster casts."> Damn. And it was that whole removal-of-clothing thing that gets me to go to the doctor in the first place. She's so nice. :)</blockquote>

Damn. And it was that whole removal-of-clothing thing that gets me to go to the doctor in the first place. She’s so nice. :)

]]> By: Ann http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/#comment-8228 Ann Sun, 19 Aug 2007 18:36:04 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/08/18/hollow-holistics/#comment-8228 "People who feel they need more attention and who express this feeling through medical symptoms will usually feel better after getting some attention." Do you really mean "medical" symptoms? Don't you mean physical or bodily or . . . symptoms? Or, medically recognized symptoms? Or . . . Are you referring to malingering (the faking or exaggeration of symptoms), Münchhausen Syndrome (habitually presentation at a hospital with false symptoms of an acute illness), or a kind of somatization, the conversion of a mental state into bodily symptoms? Or, are you referring to a personality disorder consisting of low levels of self-esteem and self-confidence? I think we all need attention more often than we realize (hell why am I writing this and why are you blogging?) which one of us converts it into symptoms? Thanks for the post “People who feel they need more attention and who express this feeling through medical symptoms will usually feel better after getting some attention.” Do you really mean “medical” symptoms? Don’t you mean physical or bodily or . . . symptoms? Or, medically recognized symptoms? Or . . .

Are you referring to malingering (the faking or exaggeration of symptoms), Münchhausen Syndrome (habitually presentation at a hospital with false symptoms of an acute illness), or a kind of somatization, the conversion of a mental state into bodily symptoms? Or, are you referring to a personality disorder consisting of low levels of self-esteem and self-confidence?

I think we all need attention more often than we realize (hell why am I writing this and why are you blogging?) which one of us converts it into symptoms?

Thanks for the post

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