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Comments on: Why 5 pieces of fruit & veg anyway? http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:54:54 +0000 hourly 1 By: tink http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-6475 Thu, 12 Apr 2007 07:52:45 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/#comment-6475 These things are often determined by a committee of some sort. This is certainly true of the setting of RDAs for nutrients. These too are set lower in the UK than in the US. Apparently British folk need less nutrients?!?!?! Well, actually RDAs are generally set to give guidance in the prevention of serious deficiency diseases in the majority of a population, not for optimal health of all of the population. It seems the British tend to err on the side of “let’s make it low enough to cover as many people as possible” – the same with the veg serving size issue.

BTW – as per who should have how many servings (as per age, sex etc) and what constitutes a serving size I found this web site to be more helpful than most:
http://www.mypyramid.gov & http://www.mypyramid.gov/pyramid/vegetables_amount.aspx#

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By: Why Dont You Blog? : Everything about diets seems to be bull http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-3553 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 21:54:35 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/#comment-3553 […] the “obligatory five pieces of fruit a day injunction – an old moan on this blog – (for which it produces no evidence but shows how many people at different ages eat it) the food […]

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By: yiduiqie http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-2988 Wed, 07 Mar 2007 06:45:32 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/#comment-2988 Kayla – it wasn’t just a decade ago; those of us in Australia are still recommended to eat 2 fruit and 5 veg every day. That link is to a fairly high profile print, radio and television campaign

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By: David Bradley Science Writer http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-2871 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:33:29 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/#comment-2871 Yes, I too have never found any peer-reviewed literature that suggests five f v are necessary. In fact, there is no conclusive evidence anywhere that eating fruit and veg is good for you in the first place. There are many people who eat very few plant products who live to a ripe (pardon the pun) old age. I know that sounds like the my granddad smoke 20 Rothman’s a day argument, but it’s not quite. Not eating f v at the levels you’re “supposed” to isn’t like pumping your lungs full of toxic fumes. It’s very, very hard to be deficient in any of the vitamins and pro-vitamins found in a “reasonable” diet, unless you deliberately avoid all f v

All that said, I do try to eat at least one piece of fruit and tomatoes every day (blueberries on gym days too)

db

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By: Kayla http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-2868 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 10:00:44 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/#comment-2868 Oh, thank goodness. I’ve had arguments with people for a while now as I was sure the original advice was “5 veg AND 3 fruit a day” – it seems that was the advice being handed out in Australia a decade or so back. I thought I was going mad as everyone I spoke to here was adamant that it was “5 fruit OR veg in total per day”.

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By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-2852 Sun, 04 Mar 2007 17:55:14 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/#comment-2852 I couldn’t agree more.

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By: Gully Foyle http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-2850 Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:24:07 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/#comment-2850 It is woo I’m afraid.

While I don’t dispute that its good to eat some veg and fruit,
the figure 5 isn’t evidence based at all as I understand it.

The reasoning was that ‘5’ is reasonably attainable by most of the population, though a higher figure would have been preferable.

A proper trial i.e. long term (years) RCT is never going to happen, no money to be made from fruit and veg unlike with drugs!

And even if a trial showed no mortality or even morbidity benefit to fruit and veg, you can bet your bottom dollar that the spin doctors would mangle the statistics to find something.

More ‘woo’ = Saturated fat/red meat is bad, soy, vegetable oils, people who can’t metabolise carbohydrate (diabetics) should eat lots of the stuff!

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By: Medic Facility blog on health » Blog Archive » The BritMeds 2007 (9) http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/comment-page-1/#comment-2842 Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:52:31 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/25/why-5-pieces-of-fruit-veg-anyway/#comment-2842 […] More on “doctor” Gillian McKeith PhD (internet) in “Why five pieces of fruit and veg anyway” […]

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