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Comments on: The unbearable weakness of reason… http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/ Challenging the Zeitgeist Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:56:47 +0000 hourly 1 By: Why Dont You Blog? » The Internet can be deeply disturbing http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1754 Sun, 11 Feb 2007 12:56:47 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/#comment-1754 […] the weakness of rationality to deal with the people who are off the scale, which I’ve already whined about. It’s that the Internet lets you see a lot further into the murky depths of humanity than […]

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By: TLCTugger http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1496 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:18:03 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/#comment-1496 It is so maddening. Even here in the US there are planty of rational folks who sympathize. But right now in Oregon, a boy’s family is headed to the Surpreme Court because one parent is so eager to mutilate and lower courts have said he MAY cut a 12-year-old against the boy’s wishes. We NEED to be more militant about this.

My strategy is to help cut men not just understand but experience some of the sensation they’ve lost, so they won’t consider cutting their sons. Problem is you tell somebody you want them to restore their foreskin and they think you’re nuts.

If instead you give them a simple, comfortable, discreet way to keep their existing skin rolled forward in a covering state they might be willing to try it. I’d remind them that this little effortless research is the least they can do before making the decision to have normal parts amputated from someone they’re suppoed to care for. Every mammal on earth evolved a foreskin before there was surgery or soap, so there’s no emergency to do the mutilation.

If you’re an atheist intactivist, I can let you have some Your-Skin Cones for such persuasive efforts.

Join the intactvist March on Washington, DC as we mark the 10th anniversary of the US genital mutilation law which protects only girls. March 30th and 31st 2007, west side of the US Capitol. http://NoCirc.org

-Ron Low

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By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1455 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 21:30:10 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/#comment-1455 Nicely put. I think that “multiculturalism” will always force those who are not religious fundamentalists to back down and let the crazy fools reign.

A normal, “sane,” person has the common decency to let the fundamentalist rant on – and do that “respect their belief” thing which annoys me.

The insane fundamentalist has no such compunction.

Come the revolution…

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By: Heather http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1453 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:34:12 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/#comment-1453 The trouble is that the statistical distribution of people with the breadth of porcine excement is not evenly split between believers and non-believers. Those who lack the aforementioned unthinness of porcine excrement tend to be too willing to accomodate other people’s daftness, because otherwise it’s a bit like showing off to say “I don’t believe that nonsense” implying “you must be stupid to believe that.” And common decency teaches you not to mock those with menatl disabilities.
(Curse common decency, sometimes)

Plus, we all want to be multicultural, and allow for other people’s values, whereas the true-believers think they are doing you a disservice if they don’t rescue you from the danger of going to hell.

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By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1452 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:18:54 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/#comment-1452 Dont blame you. Still it does highlight why, when people like Dawkins, PZ Myers, Sam Harris et al., rant about atheists being too laid back in standing up for their choices – they do have a point.

The fundamentals of religion seem to require children are indoctrinated as early as possible. It strikes me that this is not a sign that their “belief” is solid. If they are so sure, then wait and people will come round of their own choice.

Indoctrination does not strike me as a “good sign” …

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By: Heather http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1450 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:12:39 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/#comment-1450 My initial point but better made by you

I have indeed read the Sport section from cover to cover rather than read it the Family bit I won’t be reading it again in a hurry.

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By: TW http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-1448 Sat, 03 Feb 2007 20:07:44 +0000 http://www.whydontyou.org.uk/blog/2007/02/03/the-unbearable-weakness-of-reason/#comment-1448 Well, for me, the “Family” section is beyond unreadble. Fortunately, for the cats anyway, it is quite absorbent.

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